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Old 07-30-2009, 04:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Star Is Fedor Emilianenko Challenging Dana White?

Could it be? Would the Russian dare to challenge the head honcho of the UFC?

Yeah, I think Fedor Emilianenko would and already has done just that.

Why would this 63-year-old grandmother of six possibly think such a brash thought?

Well, simply because I believe that Emilianenko has a fine sense of irony, just like I do.

Dealing with a dictator on the dictator's own terms simply would not be appealing to me at all.

I would want to tweak his cheeks a little, challenge his terms and refuse to deal until I had made him retract his demands, and then rubbed his face in the fact that I challenged his "authority" and he had to back down.

What a joy that would be, to hold one of the business world's largest tyrants in the palm of my hand.

Heady feeling, isn't it, Fedor?

Dana White, unlike Emilianenko, who is a very humble man, has an enormous ego which he loves to have stroked by his UFC fighters. Imagine having world-class champion fighters bowing to your every demand, unreasonable or not.

"I am Dana White, fear my wrath! Sell me your soul, sign away the rights to your very name and image, acquiesce to my every whim or hit the road of UFC banishment! Just dare to defy the Master of MMA. the savior of the UFC organizations, I double dawg dare you!"

To which the Russian replies, "Nyet." No exclamation point, just "nyet." Simple as that.

White and the UFC thought there was a price on every man, that their millions would buy anything.

Not so, replied the humble Russian.

White "does not do cross promotions."

Emilianenko demands a cross promotion, with M-1 Global or no dice, to King Dana of the UFC and the Fertittas of Station Casino fame.

White will forever banish any fighter from the UFC who signs with EA, and Emilianenko signs with EA as their new cover boy.

What now, Dana?

You offered your adversary the keys to the kingdom to no avail. What will you do to further tempt him? Go back on your word and agree to a cross promotion? Throw five million per fight at him? Will you stoop to hiring a man who just definitely signed with your EA rival?

How low will you go, Dana? Or has your patience completely worn out?

This is a scrumptious feast, after seeing Dana turn down a fight with Affliction's "T-shirt gut" Tom Attencio, when challenged to a fight in the cage.

Ah, sweet revenge.

White eats crow, and the Russian eats two scoops of his favorite ice cream and chases it with a fine shot of vodka.
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sorry old lady fedor looks bad in this one not the ufc, and fedor is the one losing out not the ufc.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sorry old lady fedor looks bad in this one not the ufc, and fedor is the one losing out not the ufc.
I agree - but I look forward to hearing Dana and Fedor speak.

I think Dana is waiting until its 100% dead (seems to be about 95% dead right now) and he'll probably go off on them and Fedor, in time, will be forced to explain his side (from what we know, he doesn't have very good points).
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That's correct. Dementia must be setting in to interpret the UFC/Fedor negotiations in such a manner.
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Nah, Fedor doesn't look any worse than the UFC does. Fedor built his brand without the UFC's help and now they want a taste of his product. No different than M-1 wanting to get their beaks wet on what the UFC built.

People also don't talk about the fact that Fedor only has so many years left as a top-shelf fighter. He has to cash in and it looks like they're trying to lay the foundation for something that will benefit him after his career is done. Building the M-1 brand benefits him more than a million here and a million there.

JB himself did this exact thing with Pride, leeching off of their success with the Liddell/Ricco exchanges.
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Mr. Brigade I cannot tell you what a pleasure it is to post along side you. Lately I've been forced to read garbage posts from the usual suspects and I basically have to take them by the hand and lead them to water, hoping that they'll drink, (they rarely do). If you lurk, you know exactly what I'm talking about. I've nearly had it. I am almost gone from this abyss and back to the other board that I post at for good. Thank you for gracing us with your presence and your words of wisdom.
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Mr. Brigade I cannot tell you what a pleasure it is to post along side you. Lately I've been forced to read garbage posts from the usual suspects and I basically have to take them by the hand and lead them to water, hoping that they'll drink, (they rarely do). If you lurk, you know exactly what I'm talking about. I've nearly had it. I am almost gone from this abyss and back to the other board that I post at for good. Thank you for gracing us with your presence and your words of wisdom.
Did you read his post? He's accusing Dana of being hypocritical (you can't agree with that).
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Old 08-01-2009, 02:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Claudale I may disagree with Dingo Brigade from time to time, but that does not mean that his perspective is not solid, honest, and forthcoming. It also does not mean that it isn't a pleasure to post along side him. We have disagreed in the past and there are a number of topics that we agree on. Just because this is one where we don't see things in the same manner, does not mean that he doesn't deserve all of our respect. Quite frankly Claudale, I think you
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LOL - Adolf, it's just Dingo and I are capable of coming up with very similar posts. I'm glad to see him posting again, I just notice your reaction to him is different.
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Nah, Fedor doesn't look any worse than the UFC does. Fedor built his brand without the UFC's help and now they want a taste of his product. No different than M-1 wanting to get their beaks wet on what the UFC built.

People also don't talk about the fact that Fedor only has so many years left as a top-shelf fighter. He has to cash in and it looks like they're trying to lay the foundation for something that will benefit him after his career is done. Building the M-1 brand benefits him more than a million here and a million there.

JB himself did this exact thing with Pride, leeching off of their success with the Liddell/Ricco exchanges.
LOL. Leeching off their success? They sent fighters over there and were expecting to get Sakuraba and Fujita in return. They got SCREWED by Pride. Then they got screwed by Pride a second time when they let Wandy come into the cage for a staredown with Chuck, only to back out of that deal as well.

Bottom line, ZUFFA and Dana have shown a willingness to compromise, the very spirit of negotiation. M-1 has shown no such interest. M-1 looks much worse then ZUFFA does in this sense. M-1 and Fedor would be much beetter off in the UFC if we're talking Fedor's long-term interests.

Let's say that Fedor comes into the UFC and dominates like some of you expect. Six fights from now, Fedor is likely to be close to retirement. Let's say Fedor retires then, 6-0 in the UFC and unquestionably the # 1 HW in two different eras of MMA, and of course # 1 HW of all-time. Now, Fedor is well-known not just in Russia, but in the # 1 MMA market, the United States. Now, he's no longer a fighter, so UFC ahs no hold over him there, but his name is well-known, and "Fedor Emelianenko presents M-1" has cache in the world.

No, it's about money. They want to take 50% of the profits when they aren't even close to bringing in 50% of the profits. They want those profits, win or lose. So let's say the UFC makes $30-$50 million in profits per PPV Fedor fights on. That's $180-$300 million over the course of the contract. Is Fedor worth that? Hell no. They're intentionally pricing themselves out of the contract because Fedor doesn't want to fight in the UFC. The schedule is too demanding, Fedor doesn't like to fight that often, and he doesn't have a history of facing consistently tough competition in back to back fashion. In short, he liked the way Pride did business, with infrequent fights, and often freakshow fights. The UFC is more sport and less entertainment.
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