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    Shane Carwin has burst onto the scene as a top heavyweight contender in the UFC. He's made a name for himself by landing big fists that have ended fights before getting out of the first round.

    Of his three fights in the UFC, none have made it past the two-minute mark of the first round.

    Carwin is now making waves with his mouth as well with his fists. After Brock Lesnar's win over Frank Mir last weekend, most fans were appalled with Lesnar's actions. Carwin was no different and he spoke out against Lesnar in his personal blog.

    "The flipping off of the fans that just lined your pocket with millions of dollars is just LAME," Carwin wrote. "He may be a champion, but he has a long ways to go before he earns the respect of a champion."

    Those are some harsh comments that Carwin threw at Lesnar but he wasn't close to expressing his thoughts on the newly crowned UFC Heavyweight champion.

    "The fans are why we do this, Brock, this sport is not about fat paychecks and drama. It is about hard work and sacrifice for a shot to do what you did (Saturday) night. It doesn't matter how much money you make if you can't earn your peers' respect and the respect and love of the greatest sporting fans in the world."

    "Every autograph I give, every hand I shake I am thankful that you give me the opportunity to be a part of your world. This is the greatest sport in the world and most of the athletes in it deserve the love and respect they get and some just don't get it."

    If all that wasn't enough to bring Lesnar's blood to a boil, Carwin then turned his attention to Lesnar's time in pro wrestling.

    "We have no scripts in this sport, no pre-determined earning amount and no pre-determined outcomes. It doesn't matter if you win or lose; it matters how you win or lose."

    Needless to say, Brock Lesnar won't need much motivation to get ready for a fight with Carwin. The only problem for Carwin is that he isn't in line for a title shot.

    In order for Carwin to get his shot at Lesnar's belt, he needs to beat fellow undefeated heavyweight fighter, Cain Velasquez, when they meet at UFC 104 in October.

    Carwin will have the size and experience edge, but he should underestimate Velasquez who has very similar tools as Carwin.

    If Carwin does get by Velasquez, he likely won't face Lesnar until early 2010, perhaps in the main event for the UFC pay-per-view during Super Bowl weekend. Carwin will need as much time as possible to get ready for Lesnar.

    Carwin doesn't match up well with Lesnar, and it would be a very difficult fight for Carwin to win. Carwin has better stand-up that Lesnar, but Lesnar can easily negate that by taking the fight to the ground.

    Both Carwin and Lesnar were national champion wrestlers in college, but Lesnar still holds a decided weight advantage over Carwin.

    Even after weigh-ins, Carwin would likely be around 260 pounds for a fight. Lesnar cuts down to 265 to make weight and is around 280 by the time he enters the Octagon.

    Those 20-plus pounds will serve Lesnar well. He could take the same strategy he has with other fights and simply sit on top of his opponents and punish them with ground and pound until the referee stands the fighters up.

    Lesnar would also not have the fear of a submission since Carwin's jiu-jitsu is nowhere near the level of Frank Mir.

    Carwin's best chance to win a fight against Lesnar would be able to have outstanding takedown defense and land a big right on Lesnar.

    Although that's not an impossible scenario, it will be very difficult as Lesnar has shown he can take his opponent down at any time.

    Shane Carwin is a very good fighter and a great representative for mixed martial arts. He has two giant fights in front of him in order to be called a champion.

    He talks a good game, but he will learn against Velasquez, and possibly Lesnar, that there's more to being a great fighter than just talk.

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    Carwin is in a number one contender fight against velasquez not sure how he is not in line for a title shot. Carwin currently weighs 280, he weighed in at 260 for his last fight lesnar weighed in at 265. That being said i have lesnar as a pretty good favorite against carwin despite rooting for carwin. My man pimach is a lesnar hater but soon enough he will have to come to the dark side.

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    And people keep calling out the WWE from Lesnar, while still going right into WWE type tactics. Understandable, but hypocritical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    Carwin is in a number one contender fight against velasquez not sure how he is not in line for a title shot. Carwin currently weighs 280, he weighed in at 260 for his last fight lesnar weighed in at 265. That being said i have lesnar as a pretty good favorite against carwin despite rooting for carwin. My man pimach is a lesnar hater but soon enough he will have to come to the dark side.
    Brock won me over a little with his style in the Mir fight but he took a step back with his antics.

    the funny thing is, he didnt act like that in WWE.
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    pimach have you read the articles by metlzer? He really hits the mark. From the moment the ufc flashed the camera on lesnar announcing he would be the newest addition the attacks started. The boos rained down the first time he made his way to the cage, the opponents dissed him before and after fights. They played the game, he played back and then the fans cry out when he gives them what they were hoping for all along.

    In many ways wwf is not that far off from mma. People are always looking for the drama its why we have to watch fake hatred between rampage and rashad and its why we see almost never was boxing matches between white and ortiz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    pimach have you read the articles by metlzer? He really hits the mark. From the moment the ufc flashed the camera on lesnar announcing he would be the newest addition the attacks started. The boos rained down the first time he made his way to the cage, the opponents dissed him before and after fights. They played the game, he played back and then the fans cry out when he gives them what they were hoping for all along.

    In many ways wwf is not that far off from mma. People are always looking for the drama its why we have to watch fake hatred between rampage and rashad and its why we see almost never was boxing matches between white and ortiz.

    I havent had thechance to read any yet, but meltzer is usually correct.

    I agree that the fake drama argument may not be far off to an extent especially when you have a McMahonesque figure head of the company, but in regards to Lesnar specifically, the boos didnt get bad until the Herring fight. before that he was getting cheers, case in point, his first appearance at the Couture/Gonzaga fight(i think) before he was signed, he drew big cheers from the audience in the arena, now its the opposite, but thats because of his wrasslin act and the audience does play into that BS.
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    I dont know if people realize how freakishly strong Carwin is. I dont think the size will matter at all nor will Lesners power. This will come down to who wins the stand up and is able to get on top on the ground.

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    Default Re: Shane Carwin Needs to Be Careful What He Asks For

    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post

    In many ways wwf is not that far off from mma. People are always looking for the drama its why we have to watch fake hatred between rampage and rashad and its why we see almost never was boxing matches between white and ortiz.
    is that fake? lol - probably is, I think its annoying when the UFC presses fighters to trash talk. With that said, I don't like it when people are over the top respectful (like needing to touch gloves more than before the fight and before the final round (Franklin is like that sometimes).
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