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    Default Re: Could Georges St-Pierre Be To MMA, What Jordan Was To Basketball?

    Actually, I didn't know that - I thought Nog stopped doing that, I really liked him more in recent years.

    Arona is famous for it, Bustamante.

    The old TQ said the Brazilians were full of excuses and resentful of the success of American wrestlers.
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    Well bjj guys hate wrestlers so that makes sense. They try to act like bjj is a real martial art and wrestling is just a bunch of meatheads who are strong. I have yet to learn one value from bjj that i had not already learned from wrestling. the only difference is wrestling was in the school systems and bjj and other tmas were not so they were able to start dojos and overcharge. The real reason they hate wrestling is because once a wrestler learns some sub defense they are able to stifle a bjj guys game.

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    I agree with that too and that's part of the LNP argument. Wrestlers almost always control where they are and you learn submission defense pretty quickly.

    I also think part of it is that BJJ always viewed itself as a fighting sport while wrestling really isn't presented that way, but has always been an important part of fights. (if GSP hadn't become such a great wrestler, he would not be the dominant champ he now is)
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    Quote Originally Posted by clmetal View Post
    Adolf - when he wins he doesn't refer to it as catching someone.

    I thought he was real graceful after losing to Couture but then a few days later it was "that wasn't me that night in the cage" and excuses like that. Couture was poked in the eye (something Chuck has done a few times) and Chuck grabbed the fence too and Couture didn't talk about those more legit reasons.

    Brazilian fighters are also famous for making excuses when they lose, but they seem to be better than they were.
    When you lose by knock out, you aren't generally able to break down the fight, the positions in the fight and the eventual ending. It is much more reasonable to simply concede having been caught with a Good shot and then try to do better the next time. When you win and are reasonably conscious, that's when you are able to analyze and explain how exactly the punches were put together and how they were able to be effective.
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