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    Star Before UFC 100: The Modern Welterweight Era was Born at UFC 46

    Much hype has been bestowed upon UFC 100 and the title fights which will anchor the most seismic fight card in MMA history—and rightly so.

    The co-main event will showcase Georges St. Pierre defending his welterweight title against a very dangerous Thiago Alves. For St. Pierre, it will likely be his toughest test to date as he looks to bolster his MMA legacy while potentially securing a super fight with middleweight champion Anderson Silva.

    If St. Pierre looks past Alves though, he could be looking at the canvas floor.

    To get a full a sense of the current era of the welterweight division, one must step into their MMA time machine and travel back to Jan. 31, 2004. UFC 46 was a fight card of great significance to the modern welterweight division.

    Matt Hughes stepped into the octagon that night having successfully defended his belt five times. On the night in question though, Hughes would not be as opportune as he succumbed to a rear naked choke at the behest of B.J. Penn at 4:39 of round one.

    For Penn, who stepped up a weight class first time in his career, delivered one of the biggest upset of the UFC welterweight history at that time.

    Also of significance that night was the UFC debut of current welterweight champion George St. Pierre. St. Pierre rushed through his first opponent to secure a decision win over Karo Parisyan.

    With Hughes, Penn and St. Pierre all in place the welterweight stage would bet set in some form or fashion for the next four years plus.

    Penn would go on to be stripped of the UFC welterweight title in February after cutting ties with the organization while Matt Hughes would go on to regain his title in October at UFC 50 by defeating the young phenom George St. Pierre.

    Matt Hughes would successfully defend his welterweight belt another two times—at UFC 52 against Frank Trigg and UFC 63 against B.J. Penn respectively. In the process, Hughes secured his hall-of-fame status and also his place as the best welterweight in the UFC history…for now.

    It is worth noting that the title fight did not originally include Penn, rather George St. Pierre. B.J. Penn had lost in his UFC return agaisnt St. Pierre at UFC 58 which earned St. Pierre his second title shot agaisnt Matt Hughes.

    But a groin injury pulled St. Pierre out of his long-awaited rematch with Hughes, allowing Penn capitalize—only to be beaten in the process.

    St Pierre was finally able to position himself as the kingpin of the welterweight division on November 18, 2006 when he defeated Matt Hughes at UFC 65, becoming UFC champion by TKO at 1:25 of round two.

    While the welterweight division was turned on its head, with Hughes losing his belt for a second time, the sense of a new era felt firmly in place.

    That notion was quickly evaporated when Matt Serra turned the entire MMA community on its head with the biggest upset in UFC history.

    On April 7, 2007, at UFC 69, TUF 4 finale winner Matt “The Terror” Serra rocked Georges St Pierre by technical knockout at 3:25 of the first round to become the latest UFC welterweight champion.

    In loss, St. Pierre was forced to take a fight with Josh Koscheck at UFC 74 while Serra got to bask in the glory, albeit momentarily.

    Matt Serra was supposed to defend his title against Matt Hughes at UFC 79 but injuries prevented him from doing so. In stepped St-Pierre, fresh off his win over Koscheck.

    St. Pierre would defeat Hughes for a second time to claim the interim welterweight title on Dec. 29, 2007 and

    While a second win over Hughes was rewarding, the only thing Georges St-Pierre had on his mind was beating Serra to unify the two belts and once again be crowned undisputed welterweight champion.

    He got that chance April 19, 2008 at UFC 83 which took place in his hometown of Montreal, Quebec. The rematch looked nothing like their first fight.

    In an effort to avoid Serra’s knockout power, St. Pierre took Serra down at will and pounded him on the ground. The referee finally intervened at 4:45 of Round Two to stop the barrage of knees St. Pierre was delivering to the body of Serra.

    St. Pierre has had defended his belt twice since. The first defense came against Jon Fitch at UFC 87. Fitch was gritty in defeat but was completely outworked by St. Pierre in route to a lopsided decision loss.

    In one of the most hyped fights in UFC history, B.J Penn moved up to welterweight to exact revenge upon St. Pierre at UFC 94. It didn’t happen, not in the least. St. Pierre trounced Penn for through four rounds until Penn was forced to throw in the towel and sit dejected on his stool.

    That brings us to UFC 100 where St. Pierre will look to defend his belt for a third time. While many feel that St. Pierre has already surpassed Matt Hughes as the best welterweight in UFC history, St. Pierre must still live up to the Matt Hughes’s record of defending the belt seven times.

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    I think GSP will end up blowing Hughes out of the water. Hughes has the title defenses but i think gsp has faced stronger competition overall. He shares many of the same victories has hughe (penn, serra, trigg, sherk) but was much more dominant. He also has two wins completely dominant wins over hughes.

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    P-Jersey, if he loses to Alves I don't know if you are right. Hughes dominated for a while and has a win over GSP during that time and some other neat wins like Sakuria

    & if GSP can't hold him down I think he'll lose.
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    I think gsp will run through alves. Alves presents a threat in that he has power, but I think gsp is a better technical striker. He wont be as desperate and predictable in getting the fight to the ground as hughes was.

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    GSP may indeed pass Hughes, but he has a lot of work to do. Fighting with a title on the line is different then fighting a regular fight. GSP has a blackmark on his record bigger then any when Hughes was champion. Of course, he has to stay at the weight class to do this, and there are indications he may move up after this fight.
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    He also has a more quality wins in more impressive fashion than Hughes, plus he has the head to head advantage over Hughes. Beating a great fighter is more impressive than winning a title fight again a guy like gil castillo. Again lets add some qualitative analysis and not just going by stats.

    I think he will have the super fight with Silva but i think he will have at least one more fight at 170 after beating alves before that fight takes place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    He also has a more quality wins in more impressive fashion than Hughes, plus he has the head to head advantage over Hughes. Beating a great fighter is more impressive than winning a title fight again a guy like gil castillo. Again lets add some qualitative analysis and not just going by stats.

    I think he will have the super fight with Silva but i think he will have at least one more fight at 170 after beating alves before that fight takes place.
    Who's ignoring the qualitative issues here? Fighting in a title fight involves much more pressure then an average fight. GSP fought Matt Serra in his first title defense, and I don't see that as any better then Gil Castillo. Castillo at least has an impressive win over Nate Marquardt on his record. Of course, the difference is that under the pressure of a title fight AND being on one of the more pivotal cards in UFC history, Hughes won and GSP lost. It would seem to me you're the one ignoring qualitative issues.
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    Hughes also got annihilated in three different title fights. Subbed by penn, knocked out by GSP, verbally submitting to GSP. GSP responded by pummeling serra in a title fight when he had his shot at redemption. Can you imagine the pressure of fighting in front of your home country in the first Canadian show ever? Come on bub, gil castillo is an average fighter at best. GSP beating a top ranked fighter in a number one contender fight is far more impressive than beating a second or third rate fighter in a title fight.

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    Fine, but you're comparing apples to oranges. You can't take the weakest fighto n Hughes resume and compare it to one of the strongest on GSP's.
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