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    Quote Originally Posted by Pimach View Post
    The DW is stupid if he lets it run out, if that happens any non champ can wait out a contract if they can get a money offer somewhere else thats better than the ufc one. If strikeforce takes off then we could see that happening.
    I think the UFC can make Huerta fight for them again if they want to. And like Tito, they can pick someone to give him a loss as he leaves.
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    Well most guys want to stay in the ufc even if their contract is a bit less than what they could make elsewhere. Much more stability in the ufc as you never know if the org you are fighting for will fold. Also the sponsorship money and exposure is much better with the ufc.

    It all depends on how much time is left on the contract. If you sign a two year four fight contract you will probably have at least six months remaining on your contract after the third fight. Unless you are on bad terms with the ufc it would best take the fight and collect the pay check. Once you complete the contracted number of fights your contract is over and you are free to negotiate with other orgs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clmetal View Post
    I think you are wrong - Randy signed a new contract when he fought Tim (part of the war of words, that being a signing bonus) and he had fights remaining on that contract. He believed he could retire and let time pass and then could fight again elsewhere, while the UFC said they owe them those fights - but like you said, if he won those fights, he'd still be champ and that contract would have renewed. when he did return to the UFC, he commented that this legal fight would have just eaten away all his remaining fight years.
    The money issue is what caused randy to leave. But the big dispute was how long he was under contract.

    THe ufc can not force you to fight. Your contract runs out when you fight all of your contracted number of fights or the length of the contract expires.

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    Couture held a press conference on October 25, 2007 in which he denied his leaving of the UFC was a "retirement", set forth his grievances over the pay he received for his fights against Tim Sylvia and Gabriel Gonzaga, and reiterated his belief that he would be free from any contractual obligations to the UFC after nine months.[24] On October 30, 2007, UFC president Dana White and co-owner Lorenzo Fertitta held another press conference. There White reiterated the UFC's position that Couture remains the promotion's heavyweight champion despite his tendered resignation, and that Couture would remain obligated under his UFC contract well beyond nine months.[25]

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    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    Well most guys want to stay in the ufc even if their contract is a bit less than what they could make elsewhere. Much more stability in the ufc as you never know if the org you are fighting for will fold. Also the sponsorship money and exposure is much better with the ufc.

    It all depends on how much time is left on the contract. If you sign a two year four fight contract you will probably have at least six months remaining on your contract after the third fight. Unless you are on bad terms with the ufc it would best take the fight and collect the pay check. Once you complete the contracted number of fights your contract is over and you are free to negotiate with other orgs.
    I don't even know if he wants to fight again. Perhaps the UFC will want to keep him, but I bet they keep that one fight open in case he goes to fight elsewhere.

    You don't think about him much now that he is gone and doesn't appear to be the best at 155 - no way he could beat Edgar, Maynard or BJ. He was lucky to beat Guida and lost to Florian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    The money issue is what caused randy to leave. But the big dispute was how long he was under contract.

    THe ufc can not force you to fight. Your contract runs out when you fight all of your contracted number of fights or the length of the contract expires.

    Here is a snippet:
    Couture held a press conference on October 25, 2007 in which he denied his leaving of the UFC was a "retirement", set forth his grievances over the pay he received for his fights against Tim Sylvia and Gabriel Gonzaga, and reiterated his belief that he would be free from any contractual obligations to the UFC after nine months.[24] On October 30, 2007, UFC president Dana White and co-owner Lorenzo Fertitta held another press conference. There White reiterated the UFC's position that Couture remains the promotion's heavyweight champion despite his tendered resignation, and that Couture would remain obligated under his UFC contract well beyond nine months.[25]
    No one can force you to perform (I think that's related to the end of slavery - VAK will chime in if I am off base since this must be an bar question).

    resignation and retirement are probably the 2 terms I was thinking of.

    Randy said a few things caused him to leave - being lied to about being the 2nd highest paid fighter, not getting the locker room bonus he was expecting (Dana said the 1st was a signing bonus), the fact the Fedor negotiations broke down and Dana blowing him off (commenting on asking for free tickets to the Gonzaga fight and not getting them).

    Dana said he owes them 3 fights before he fights elsewhere, you are suggesting a waiting period would have freed him (without fighting) and I don't think that's the case.
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    Well he is doing acting and movies right now. But once december hits it wont matter that there is one fight left open as his contract will be expired.

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    It is the case because couture thought he could wait out the contract as it was only 9 months. The ufc said it was longer than that so they were willing to drag it out in courts which would be more money that it was worth for couture.

    The fact that couture was the champ made things complicated. It is not complicated with huerta, tehre is a clear number of fights and a clear length of contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    Well he is doing acting and movies right now. But once december hits it wont matter that there is one fight left open as his contract will be expired.
    I'm not so sure, if the UFC offers him a fight, I think (based on the opinion of the UFC's legal council) that he owes them a fight before he can sign elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clmetal View Post
    I think the UFC can make Huerta fight for them again if they want to. And like Tito, they can pick someone to give him a loss as he leaves.
    My understanding is that Roger is willing to fight but its probably to the UFC's advantage to keep him shelved rather than publicize him any further .

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