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    Unfortunately, I was not at all happy after UFC 99, which was held in Cologne, Germany on June 13.

    For one thing, I got the results of the fight long before the event was even scheduled to begin.

    True, there have been times when I was elated to learn who won before watching to see it for myself.

    However, that occurs mostly when the fighters I have picked to win do, which was not at all the case in this event.

    Judging from the reactions of the fans and even several fighters, there was more discontent after this event than is usually the case.

    For one thing, Marcus Davis, Caol Uno, Mustapha Al-Turk, and Wanderlei Silva all thought that they had won, But then so did I, in a few cases.

    There was more than one decision that I had a gripe with and would have liked to see go the other way.

    True, Dan Hardy, whom my friend calls "the red rooster," was off the wall fierce in his fight and did get his win by virtue of Davis's thin skin and the way Hardy had provoked him pre-fight.

    There is a lot to be said about not letting anger get the best of you during a fight.

    All the insults and taunting had Marcus losing not only his temper, but the fight as well.

    In the meantime, Hardy allowed any stress he may have felt, which appeared to be negligible to none at all, roll off him like water off a duck.

    He fought smart and powerfully and didn't care that some fools (guilty as charged), were actually pulling against him.

    I guess the judges noticed this.

    Mustapha appeared to have a legitimate gripe about being poked in the eye, just as viciously as Kevin Burns gouged Anthony Johnson in their first meeting.

    Although I had definitely wanted Cro Cop to win, that was certainly no way for him to do it.

    Just as Johnson got no satisfaction when he complained after his fight, I doubt that Al-Turk will get any farther by complaining, no matter how long and hard he carries on about it.

    Not everyone can rally as did Georges St-Pierre in his first fight with BJ Penn, when after his eye was poked, he saw so many Hawaiians come at him he didn't know which one to punch.

    And my heavens did I feel awful about Wanderlei tanking before the end of his match. His physique looked tremendous and he fought his heart out, completely winning over the hearts of the fans, if not high scores from the judges.

    I will so be looking forward to seeing him fight in the 185 pound division; once he gets used to that weight, I expect great battles from the Ax Murderer.

    Dana White seemed initially to be elated with the success of the promotion in Germany, despite the poor opinion certain politicians had voiced about MMA as being "a vicious blood sport" before the date of the fight was even finalized.

    The fact that the Croation Sensation defected from the UFC to the Dream organization after the fight did take the wind out of White's sails, if not the invective out of his F word littered speech, but then what else is new? Certainly not Dana's propensity for foul language.

    I have read so many articles wherein the fighters feel they were robbed at UFC 99, that I will be glad to have it over and will look forward to UFC 100.

    Somehow I fear predicting the winners for this highly touted fight for fear I will jinx my favorite fighters.

    At the rate I am going now, I could single-handedly be responsible for sending the sport back to the dark ages simply by wishing the fighters good luck.

    Like the ancient Greeks and Romans, I will have to just leave it to the gods of fighting who will prevail .

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    Wandy got jobbed
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    How did Mustafa think he won? He shouldn't have turned his back - maybe the ref should have stopped them but I don't think he could beat CC anyways.

    I thought the Davis and CC decisions were right. Marcus won most of the first round and then lost the end of it badly and that was the difference imo. I think Hardy is an ahole for talking all that crap against someone you otherwise don't know, so I really wanted Davis.

    Although Franklin has had a really hard schedule recently, I think he's a little too defensive - more worried about getting hurt than hurting his opponent. He is improving, but his fight style is getting more boring (decision oriented)
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    I though the Davis decision was fine. He was winning the grappling but got hurt multiple times on the feet, and then in the decisive round got put on his back and busted open.

    I thought Franklin clearly won. Silva had a few spurts where he had Franklin backign up and even hurt him once in the second. Most of the times when he did come forward he was swinging wildy and missing. I am surprised more was not made of silva getting dropped with a jab in the second.

    I think it goes to show you how many silva fans there are since that many people thought he won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    I though the Davis decision was fine. He was winning the grappling but got hurt multiple times on the feet, and then in the decisive round got put on his back and busted open.

    I thought Franklin clearly won. Silva had a few spurts where he had Franklin backign up and even hurt him once in the second. Most of the times when he did come forward he was swinging wildy and missing. I am surprised more was not made of silva getting dropped with a jab in the second.

    I think it goes to show you how many silva fans there are since that many people thought he won.
    have the rules changed concerning 10-8 rounds? In both fights, both guys went down from shots and then lost other parts of the round. Hard to score fights like that. I could see Davis winning the first and the third barely and losing the second decisively since that's how scoring works. I think the Rampage-Henderson fight was a little like that and same with the first GSP-BJ fight.

    Maybe the UFC should think of Pride judging - effort to end the fight (would hurt Franklin's new style as well as Bisping's win over Leben) and maybe look at it as an entire fight?
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    I dont think its clear how judges score a knockdown. I dont think it is an automatic 10-8 round. I think in some cases it could be a 10-8 but if the other fight wins the rest of the round it will be ruled a 10-9.

    In the second round of the franklin fight the round started out with franklin landed about 10-15 punches with silva missing every one. Franklin was in complete control of the round then dropped silva with a jab. Then towards the end silva came on strong and hurt franklin a bit. But then again Franklin threw a head kick that landed and wanderlei fell but it seemed more that he was off balance but it still has to be scored to some degree.

    I thought silvas surges made it a closer fight but no way i could see him winning.

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    I agree he lost and it seems now you only get a 10-8 round if you win the round and you drop the guy (or just destroy him).

    I'd like to see the finish the fight criteria added (but I thought Pride gave too much credit to guys going for submissions that they weren't close to getting - like Nog over Ricco (only one submission was close)
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    Yea its hard to score points for submission attempts. Because then you will have guys going for submissions even if they are half hearted or have little chance of succeeding just to score points.

    To me defending a submission is just as good as attempting a submission.

    I think they should at least make all main event fights 5 rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMA Reporter View Post
    For one thing, I got the results of the fight long before the event was even scheduled to begin.
    The fights were on PPV at 3 p.m. Eastern time, which made it about 10 p.m. in Germany (the time that UFC fights normally start in the US), so it was really a matter of being at the TV at the right time, which I almost wasnt.

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