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    Star Can the UFC Survive with Champs Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida?

    The new version of the "Karate Kid" has come to town, and Grandma Dee wonders who will be able to survive his fighting style.

    Since Lyota the "Dragon" Machida has been bred and raised by his father to do just what he did last night, become the new Light Heavyweight Champion of the World of MMA, can anyone survive him?

    This question includes the future of the UFC organization, which put the belt around his waist last night.

    Although my family and I eagerly awaited and watched every version of the original Karate Kid movies with Daniel-san, the new champion has not been quite so universally popular with fans in his past.

    True, MMA connoisseurs realize that Machida and even the older established champion of the Middleweight division, Anderson Silva, have a counter-defensive style of fighting that many of the beer swilling fans at an event often find too slow and boring.

    Hence the evidence of a great amount of loud booing after Anderson Silva "won" his last fight over fellow BJJ specialist Thiago Leites.

    Dana White berated the MW Champion and sided with the disgruntled fans rather than pointing out that the object of fighting in the UFC is to win and retain championships.

    If you think that was a strange turn of events, wait and see just how Mr. White will "counter" the future Machida fights that have the potential to also elicit more boos than cheers.

    This is a rather unique yet serious question.

    Many, like me, have pondered about why it took White and Joe Silva so long to hook Machida up with a championship shot after he humiliated Dana's nemesis Tito Ortiz and sent him off to pack it in after the final fight of Tito's UFC contract.

    It is exceedingly difficult to look good fighting such an elusive counter-defence style fighter, and this problem will now face every single challenger to Machida's belt.

    Rampage Jackson is the name that first comes to mind when one thinks of Machida's potential "next victim."

    Indeed, Quentin was busy observing last night's fight from a premium front-row seat as was one of Machida's earlier victims, the "Prodigy" BJ Penn.

    Though a rematch with BJ is highly unlikely, both men seemed to be mentally taking notes, as Rashad Evans eventually fell under Lyoto's power and then lay helplessly against the cage after his first time to ever be knocked out.

    What a disheartening experience for the, until then, undefeated and now "former champ."

    Though the much maligned and little respected Evans was very generous and ever the intelligent well-spoken fighter during his post-fight interview, he had little to say about what his game plan had been or why he failed to win the fight.

    Maybe there is something to Lyoto's family tradition of drinking their own urine every morning after all.

    (A question which Grandma Dee and many others will never be tempted to willingly investigate).

    What I am mostly curious about is how Joe Silva and boss Dana White are going to market future UFC fights considering the fact that White considers this fighting style to be boring and not likely to put butts in seats the way that fights involving his other champions BJ Penn, Georges St. Pierre, and Brock Lesnar are able to do.

    Could these two counter-defensive fighters cause a downswing in filling seats, encouraging the continued purchasing of PPVs or of the eventual sales of the DVDs of the event?

    Not being able to turn a profit and potential challengers not being able to decipher the code to unlock Silva's and Machida's mysteries may be a more deadly combination for the UFC than any situation it has faced so far in its short history.

    I am sure that Dana White, Joe Silva, and even Grandma Dee will continue searching for the answers to this most recent MMA dilemma.

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    Make one of them move up/down in weight. Then they could fight each other, and there'd only be one "boring" champ

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    Machida is quickly destroying the boring image. He has had five televised bouts, the first one was against nakamura in which he was very dominant hurt him several times but did not go in for the kill. His second fight he decimated sokoudjou in a very impressive fight. His third fight was against ortiz, this was a boring performance one in which he was very tentative and seemed nervous going against a big start who the president hated. His third televised fight he completely annihilated thiago silva with a first round finish. The 5th fight he fought for the title and crushed the champion by ko in the 2nd round.

    He has become more aggresive as of late, and I expect the great performances to continue.

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    Default Re: Can the UFC Survive with Champs Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida?

    PJ - with both fighters, if you don't come at them (which is dangerous) they don't come after you. Of course once they get going, they beat people good - so although this fight was uneventful at times, it had plenty of highlights.

    I'd like to see him fight Shogun the most (since Shogun looked pretty good in his last fight).
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    Yes machida will always be more of a counter striker picks his spots but he is developing more of a killer instinct. In past fights he would hurt the guy but did not finish them off. Now he is hurting guys and finishing them off.

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    Its a silly question, IMO. The UFC has a loaded stable, and as much as I dislike Dana White for other reasons, the UFC does a great job marketing their fights. If Machida or A. Silva aren't selling PPVs, they have the fighters to add to the card and make it sell, including many popular guys who aren't champs anymore (Hughes, Liddell?, Couture, Rampage, Wanderlei...)

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    I don't know about you guys, but everyone in the bar where I was watching the fight was cheering for Machida and went nuts when he won. It might have been more of a case that they disliked Rashad and wanted Rashad to lose more than they were rooting for Machida specifically, but he definitely got a lot of support where I was.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DH View Post
    I don't know about you guys, but everyone in the bar where I was watching the fight was cheering for Machida and went nuts when he won. It might have been more of a case that they disliked Rashad and wanted Rashad to lose more than they were rooting for Machida specifically, but he definitely got a lot of support where I was.
    were there confederate flags hanging on the wall in that bar?
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    Default Re: Can the UFC Survive with Champs Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida?

    Quote Originally Posted by p-jersey View Post
    Yes machida will always be more of a counter striker picks his spots but he is developing more of a killer instinct. In past fights he would hurt the guy but did not finish them off. Now he is hurting guys and finishing them off.
    True - I'm actually surprised people are saying this after this fight. Although the first few minutes were uneventful, he hurt him a few times and ended it in 2 rounds.

    But I think people will start to fight him the way they fight Silva; they won't hunt him down and walk into danger. we could have a boring 5 rounder if that happens.
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