Moves that don't work in college...

RYou · 06-21-2008, 03:14 PM

The wrist roll, though rarely successful even at the HS level.

wrastler118 · 06-22-2008, 12:45 AM

I think it just depends on the situation. If someone walks right into a had and arm, if executed right, can be highly effective. Just pinned a college kid with it last year. Just like any move, if the situation is there, they can be used. Just not very often. However, I will say I have yet to see a front 3/4 used effectively at the college level. At least at the D1 level.

MOJO · 06-25-2008, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by Wiltz

"If I rewrote the alphabet I would put U and I together"

Or a fireman's carry at least I haven't seen a high success rate on those.

Brother Wiltz, I was going to disagree with you, using myself (I pinned Matt Ghaffari with a firemans in the 87 National Open, among others. One of my favorite moves.) and Ricky Stewart (pinned Dave Schultz with a firemans in the 81(?) NCAA finals. Then I realized that I couldn't think of any examples that weren't 20 odd years old

! I wonder why this great move, along with it'ts counter-part the barrel roll went out of fashion? Its a great move!

LkwdSteve · 06-25-2008, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by MOJO

Brother Wiltz, I was going to disagree with you, using myself (I pinned Matt Ghaffari with a firemans in the 87 National Open, among others. One of my favorite moves.) and Ricky Stewart (pinned Dave Schultz with a firemans in the 81(?) NCAA finals. Then I realized that I couldn't think of any examples that weren't 20 odd years old ! I wonder why this great move, along with it'ts counter-part the barrel roll went out of fashion? Its a great move!

What do you call what Metcalf uses if not a fireman?

Spider · 06-25-2008, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by MOJO

Brother Wiltz, I was going to disagree with you, using myself (I pinned Matt Ghaffari with a firemans in the 87 National Open, among others. One of my favorite moves.) and Ricky Stewart (pinned Dave Schultz with a firemans in the 81(?) NCAA finals. Then I realized that I couldn't think of any examples that weren't 20 odd years old ! I wonder why this great move, along with it'ts counter-part the barrel roll went out of fashion? Its a great move!

How true. In fact in the match just before that one (yes, it was 1981), you may recall in the first period Scott Trizzino of Iowa hit a perfect fireman's carry on Nate Carr of Iowa State, but before the oooh's and aaah's of the crowd had died down, Carr scrambled out of it for no points.

homerdindon · 06-25-2008, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by ISU2008

Well in general terms, I've rarely seen a crossface cradle at the collegiate level.

Scott Barker used to crossface cradle tons of people. Larkin used to do it quite a bit as well.

I was only pinned twice in college, and one of them was by Matt Pell in a front 3/4 where he hooked my leg somehow.

The other one was by Woodley in a cradle. Yeah, I suck.

Damn you Blue and your Missouri boys!

the518 · 06-28-2008, 02:32 PM

i'd say lateral drop. last successful one i saw was damien hahn hitting trenge with it at the end of the 3rd to win the title. you don't see it work that often. usually a desperation move at the end of a match that goes wrong.

Wiltz · 06-28-2008, 03:43 PM

Hey, I love the firemans carry. I just don't see it very often anymore.

Steve, if Metcalf used it a bunch at St. Eds I didn't see it of course. I would say Metcalfs two favorites are; snap down to a front headlock and a high crotch.

Spec · 07-03-2008, 07:04 PM

I have not seem the leg cradle once, even rare HS level. And to be honest, I don't really see as much low singles as I'd like, but I guess it reserves to the few.

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