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    Gable should be carved as he appeared on the medal stand at the Olympics
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    Brothers, I would go in a slightly different direction, having representatives of the 3 styles of wrestling and one for coaching. With this thinking, I would have Cael(folkstyle), Smith (freestyle) Rulon (Greco) and Gable (coaching). And we should put the memorial in the Colorado Rockies somewhere, the center of the country, as befitting the most central of all sports.

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    Nothing against Rulon Gardner but I don't think he belongs there...I tend to agree with Baumgartner over Cael for now. If Cael can win an NCAA Championship or two, I would put him there in a heartbeat.

    I almost couldn't resist seeing Ben Askren's big A$$ fro up there though.
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    How about an all "funny looking" Mt. Rushmore...I know I would have to put Lincoln Mc on there with his head bandage and Ben Askren for sure. Any others?
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    Quote Originally Posted by goferphan View Post
    Nothing against Rulon Gardner but I don't think he belongs there...I tend to agree with Baumgartner over Cael for now. If Cael can win an NCAA Championship or two, I would put him there in a heartbeat.

    I almost couldn't resist seeing Ben Askren's big A$$ fro up there though.
    Brother Goferphan,
    I understand your hesitancy with big Ru, but in trying to find the best Greco representative (I'm still sticking with the Freestyle, Greco, Folkstyle & Coaching icon philosophy) who would be better than our only Olympic & World champion, who beat the greatest Greco wrestler in history to get his Olympic gold medal? My other thought was Steve Fraser, who was as tough and dedicated a wrestler as I have ever had the pleasure of banging heads with, but his accomplishments, while stellar, don't compare the 9 toed one, IMO.

    As for Askren, his statue has no business in the vacinity of the other guys we have talked about, but I agree, it would be pretty cool to see a giant afro in the craggy granite. Maybe they could plant 3 or 4 bushy beech trees on top of his statue to approximate the look !

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    Tricia Saunders?

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    I was thinking of Tricia but a bit fearful, since she's a girl and all. ;-)

    Seriously, Tricia Saunders is worthy of consideration for her accomplishments alone... but one could also argue as one who opened doors, broke down barriers, made other women realize, "Hey, it's cool to compete in wrestling." (And certainly one of the nicest, most humble of the superstars I've ever interviewed.)

    I would also wonder if we're overlooking anyone from pre-1970 -- a real problem I had with the NCAA 75th Anniversary Team that forgot all-time greats like Earl McCready, Rex Peery and sons Ed and Hugh, Stan Henson, Bill Koll, Lowell Lange, Dick Hutton (to name some pre-1960 names)...

    One of the oldsters serving up food for thought,
    Mark

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    Many (most?) historians don't think that Teddy Roosevelt truly belongs on Rushmore as one of the greatest presidents.

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    How many histories of the period (1850 - 1920) or biographies of Theodore Roosevelt have you read?

    Congressional Medal of Honor
    Panama Canal
    Nobel Peace Prize
    Trust busting
    Better working conditions for all workers
    The first president to invite an African-American to dinner in the White House
    Reformed civil service
    Built up the US Navy

    There have been 12 major presidential ranking polls of historians over the years, beginning with Harvard's James Schlesinger's in 1948. The most recent one was commissioned by The Wall Street Journal in 2005 and conducted by Northwestern's James Lindgren. The average ranking for Theodore Roosevelt is 4.83 If you factor in that Franklin Roosevelt had not yet been president when Gutzon Borglum began carving Mount Rushmore that would make TR widely accepted as being deserving of his placement on that pantheon.

    Please note : these are all polls and surveys of HISTORIANS.

    PS Please don't counter with Brownsville - I and all historians are well aware.

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