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Why did the pin-fall get chosen as the main way to win a match in (Western) amateur wrestling?

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Why did the pin-fall get chosen as the main way to win a match in (Western) amateur wrestling?

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Old 09-01-2008, 09:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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All I can say is, like, wow...

Thanks, DoubleGrapevine, for sharing your research.

(And, to clarify: I'm not a historian. I just play one on TV.)

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Old 09-06-2008, 09:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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In Karate children are taught the same kata as adults, but adults are given a different understading of the motions than children. For example, in Nahanci Shodan kata there is one position that is supposed to be a stance for punching (try that stance against a street boxer and eat a lot of fists), it's not, it's a a variant of a Russian, lots of kicks/stomps to the leg from a Russian tie s the whole kata (with some temple strikes thrown in). Imagine how dangerous that would be for a child to know. Okinawans didn't want 10 year olds with broken legs after all. Combatives all exhibit this dichotomy. Same activity, different applications. Wrestling minus cruel submissions is folkstyle, add submissions and you have a mans game you can make money at without risking your hands/livlihood.
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Wrestling minus cruel submissions is folkstyle, add submissions and you have a mans game you can make money at without risking your hands/livlihood.
So are you saying that wrestling with just pins and no submissions is simply a boy's game and not a man's game? Haha.
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