Conversation Between Ken Shirtaugh and LkwdSteve

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  1. I'm trying to pick BP's brain. I asked your question in an E-mail to him.

    He's written already on that he thinks Taylor is "wedded" to Cael.
  2. What will Taylor and Clark do? What do you think about Bobby Douglas retiring early to move over for Cael??
  3. BT has been doing some posting on Justin Kerr's site,, after a long hiatus (first I've seen him since his site went down). He had some kind of problem with Dan Cosimi, which he used to rag about on his site. Dan Cosimi along with Dan Ransick, run where some really good posting goes on. I post on both.
  4. Wow Steve, sounds like I missed some good wrestling. I went back on Flowrestling and watched Caldwell/Metcalf 1. You couldn't tell if he was stuck or not from the angle the match was filmed. I trust the ref made the right call.

    Billytickets, now there's a blast from the past. Haven't read anything posted by him in about 4 years. I have TWT, Themat, and Flo. Hard to keep up with the numerous wrestling sites..
  5. BTW-that was interesting having Brands and Martin of ODU (formerly Great Bridge) in the gym together. And yes, they had "words" for each other in the rough and tumble of the Iowa-ODU match.

    I actually broke the pin story on here in a thread started by jensen dedicated to those duals. I hadn't checked themat, but assumed it was on there already. I opened Jensen's thread and casually noted the Perry match and put an oh-by-the-way Metcalf was spladdled and pinned by Caldwell. The first responder was Bambam who asked a two word question "say what?".

    I realized I hadn't broken the story correctly, having forgotten BillyTickets' lessons on breaking stories. I was supposed to start a thread of it's own for it in big letters and failed to do that. When I checked themat, there was nothing there yet either. That all changed but it took a good 6 to 7 hours after it happened. Pretty slow for the internet.
  6. Sorry for the delayed response, Ken. I had forgotten. Things have been hectic. What a difference a weekend makes, as Caldwell proves the pin wasn't necessarily a fluke. Yes I was in the gym for that and Perry's meltdown. Metcalf had been hitting his fireman's (that's what we called it back in the day) all day, but seems to get much more tentative in the opening half of the first period against Caldwell. When he finally attempted a shot, Caldwell did a Wade Shalles on him going right into the standing spladdle. I had a bad angle on it, and Brands certainly protested. I went across to the other side of the gym, where Bob Preusse and Tony Armelli (state level ref) were comparing notes and they said that Metcalf was definitely pinned.

    TWT has smacked my hand telling me that my message is too long so I'm splitting it.
  7. How strange is it that the last time Metcalf lost it was in St. Ed's Gym?? If I'm not mistaken defending NCAA champ Perry got his ass kicked that same day. Weren't you there for that, must've been somethin to see..
  8. Sorry Ken, didn't see your request right away.
    Baum's page has it. Padua won, with Kilroy and Fickle champs, and 4 others getting out.
  9. Do you know where I can find Fostoria District results?
  10. I don't think so, the name doesn't ring a bell.
  11. I actually answered that as best I could in the Eds wrestle-off thread in the high school section. OHSAA rules, as written, are not always easy to follow, but that one seems clear enough.

    Do you know Jerry Knapp from Olmsted Falls by chance? His dad does most of my car repairs.
  12. Thanks for the update Mr. Lester. I was especially interested in the outcome of the Ed's160 wrestle-off. My good buddy's lil bro is Greene. Looks like he failed the hydo test, does he get another shot? Is it a team or OHSAA rule?? BTW- Depending on the day I'm in the low 60's...I should prolly stop up to Padua one of these days and roll around with Kilroy. I'll report back..
  13. The Ironman has Kilroy at 160 along with Walters. Kyle Ryan is entered, unseeded, for SPG and should be a load for whatever seeded wrestlers he faces. Those are the major division 2 players entered and should be the guys at the top of the 160 div 2 podium in March.

    Kyle Lang is the top seed with Zach Toal and Zac Goins in there also. I really like Goins and am labelling him a super sleeper here from the 6 seed.
  14. Using final season rankings from Ohiowrestlingsite the returning wrestlers in div2 160 are
    2. James Mannier, SPG
    6. Kilroy
    10. Adam Walters, West Geuaga

    It seems Mannier is being projected for 171, which would put Kyle Ryan, 2 time JH state champ, into the lineup for SPG.

    If Kilroy goes 171 he would battle Nick Mills in addition to Mannier. Walter could go 171 I think.

    All wrestlers mentioned will be in the Ironman.
  15. Thanks Steve, specifically, I wanted to check out Kilroy's weight. 160 in D II. Does he have a legitimate shot at winning a title as a sophomore??
  16. The sites I check out are 1., 2., and 3.

    1. On the main page you see a "rankings" tab which gives his (Justin's) in depth look by division.
    2. One this main page, hitting the ranking tab offers ALL of the Brakeman reports (I believe). I think Dan has done a Brakeman style report himself. If I'm right it would be in the actual thread archives.
    3. I think Josh (Bucksman) ties in his lists to wrestling411.

    The thing is, any lists rate to come out in January, though preliminary lists might be seen mid-December, once wrestlers get on the mat and weights become known.

    A current topic on Yappi is top ten overall Ohio wrestlers regardless of weight or division, but I imagine you are looking for something a little broader.
  17. Steve, do you know where I can find preseason individual rankings for Ohio hs wrestlers?
  18. I hadn't seen it. Fantastic read!!

    Real interesting how he struck up the friendship with the USA flag-bearer.

    Thanks for the heads-up.

    I'm sure you've seen this, but if you haven't it's a link to Josh McAdam's blog on He updates it frequently. I think you can read Hrovat's blog on Flo.
  20. Haha. The Plain Dealer missed the real story, trying to take credit for McAdams success (delivering newspapers--indeed), when it was you who molded our Olympian.
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