Conversation Between Herkey#1 and r.payton@att.net

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  1. If you had Barnes you would have gotten 1st and 2nd at the pac 10's . You caught a break as Chamberlain did not get a bye and gets 4 matches instead of 3 -he wrestles a guy he has already pinned tomorrow .
    That was what I was trying to do -you would have 50 points + coming from the Pac 10 at 149 .Chamberlain and Barnes own the pac 10 and have majored ,teched or stuck everyone . As it stands -finishing second Chamberlain will get you 4+4+4+12=28-if he beats Barnes -and this is why I was hoping you'd make the trade -4+4+4+3+16=31 -if we could have made the trade you would have 59 points from this one weight class . If you are bored the Pac 10 is showing live feeds from the tourney starting tomorrow-pig tails should start at 12 pm our time . Go to Cal state Bakersfield's wrestling site and it is self explanatory on getting the feed .
  2. Russ, I've been out of town the last couple of days and didnt have access to my computer. Sorry about the trade offer. I didnt even see it until it was too late. Hopefully I can win conferences so I can make it to the big show, seems unlikely but it has been fun so far. I obviously like to have state of Iowa guys on my team which may be my downfall but I gotta stick with em. Live by the sword. Die by the sword. Good luck.

    This next month is what its all about!!
  3. John ,
    Just saying hi and wishing you luck in the weeks to come . I paid a pretty high price for Metcalf but i think he could be the best wrestler I have ever seen . The MAN has beaten the hell out of some of the better college wrestlers w/out breaking a sweat . My line up needed that stud i could count on -through conferences Poeta was ok but only got 2 majors -in the NCAA's he could finish from 3-8th I was sitting Kennedy anyway as Baker is an animal-I hated to have to trade as much as I did but 1/2 my team was redshirted or hurt -that is why i was in 10th place . I truly hope you make it into the next level-if you do you have the horses to win the whole thing -149 is your only weakness because he is a year or two away from winning the thing .
    I think we are a lot alike -a coupla old WAR HORSES set in their ways -God luck- Russ
  4. John,
    just made a huge trade so I have no use for Barnes -as you will need all the pointd you can get to make the playoffs -i offer you Barnes and Brown for Fay and ???-Brown will get you extra matches and win the CAA and Barnes has beaten Chamberlain twice -in the long run you will lose as Fay is better than Brown but you need points now and ou can always flex Barnes in the tournet -the man is 32 -4 with 23 of his matches either being majors , techs or falls .
    Fay will win the conference -but he will get 2 matches most -whereas depending on the pigtail Brown could get 4 . minimum 3 . Check out the trade I made with Gold -5 wrestler swap.
    Let me know as tommorow is the conference schedule deadline .
  5. Thanks, I know about Sorenson. He's pretty good but I think Anderson will take him again.
  6. Sorrytorain on your parade today but i just found out -actually I was looking up that lame conference WWC for you-- when I found a kid who has been hurt all year -anderson beat him last week 6-5 but it was the kid's first loss -\SDSU-Sorenson he is 12-1 .
  7. Also on Div 1 if you press links it takes you to each schools wrestling web page .
  8. Yea -Zapp uses intermat-but I use Div1 wrestling-they have this years and last years results as well as conference breakdowns-press the 2008 results and you can see everyone's record + the conference results -
    You only get 16 for first and 12 for 2nd as far as points go -in confernces -but the most matches Dolly can get is 2 -whereas the big 10 has 11 schools so Keddy can get as many as 5-he won't get bonus if he does not place in the top 2 -but say he sticks 3 fish .??18 points .
  9. The reason I put Dolly in instead of Keddy was because I figured he had a better chance of finishing higher than Keddy. I really havnt paid enough attention to know that you get more points if your in a bigger conference. I thought you got 16 for a champ and the point total went down as the place went down. I guess I should rethink my strategy a little bit.

    I have a hard time finding results. I know there is a site that has them all and I know that Zapp uses it for our league. What is it, do you know?
  10. John ,
    I was looking at your line up and couldn't believe you were wrestling Dolly instead of Keddy -not my place to say anything -but Keddy might get you more points finishing third than Dolly finishing second . LeBlanc is legit top 15 -no #7 where they had him but between 10-12 -he should beat dolly whereas Keddy may finish 3rd or second but will get 2-3 more matches than Dolly . That is what I hate about these tiny conferences -one match and you are second -but still that is only 15 points -Keddy gets a coupla falls and a major and you have the same point total .
    197 in the CAA is actually a tough conference -Miller ,Fagiano,Strawn ,Byers and Opplinger and Hall could al win it -go to the other fantasy site and Dartshark is going through the exact thing you are -he has Byers and he fears all the guys I have mentoned -Fag won 24 matches as a true freshman last year for IU-give it some thought .
  11. I'm not too sure how Jantzen can handle a tournament right now either. He's not even in my lineup for conferences.

    I think this is my best bet for conference.
    125 Falck 133 Fanthorpe 141 Washington 149 Chamberlain 157 Leen 165 Fay 174 Luke 184 Dolly 197 Anderson HWT Brantley and Flex Oplinger.
    Oplinger will have to face Bayers but I think he can handle him. Keddy could finish third, Burk sucks and Erekson could win it but could also finish third. I think Oplinger is my best choice for a flex.
  12. since the Midlands -Jantzen has accepted a fft -beat a fish and then ducked 2 pretty good wrestlers in Manson and Accordino-I am glad you picked up Washington because to be honest I don't think Jantzen can wrestle hard four times in a day .
  13. I was at the Morningstar/Howe match this year when it went 3ot and Howe won because he had more riding time. Pretty pathetic. I wish they would do away with riding time because it makes the guy on top not work to turn. Although it is fun for me to see a tough ride. I don't know what these ivy league guys are doing. Just fricken wrestle. They shouldnt be sitting out anymore though since conference and NCAA's is all they have left. Just hope the lack of competing doesnt hurt Jantzen in the long run.
  14. John ,
    I am such a dork that I was watching the Harvard /Cornell live updates and could not believe that Jantzen did not wrestle ,Leen did not wrestle and then they FFTed to Caputo although Kerber was ready to wrestle -they changed it later but the live feed showed fft 133-174 matches -then fft out .
    I do NOT understand the wrestlers today .I would die before I missed a meet in high school -I lived for them . We may be a coupla dinosaurs -I would stall half the matches I reffed out . Do you remember the Mills match where he won 16-14 or close to that score and they hit the kid he was wrestling with a stall warning ? Or when-to the shame of Hoosiers everywhere -Bud Palmer got stalled out of the NCAA's ??
    The IVY league schools are little rich kids not on scholarship-but they are still WRESTLERS !! One more 3-2 3ot match won on 5 seconds riding time and I may shoot myself .
  15. Yea -and it sure as hell does not taste like chicken-more like the second word after chicken in a well known phrase used when calling someone a coward .
  16. There certainly does seem to be a Minnesota flavor to this board.
  17. John -when I first came onto this board I was THE IU homer -and it is hard fighting these Minny creatures every week-Escobedo was the ultimate bad guy as he kept beating Ness -the Kinser /Coughlin mess made me turn from the Hoosiers but I will never stop speaking my piece -wait til I post my IU/Minn outcome / predictions .
  18. John -Accboy is trying to trade either Caramancia or Vince Jones for a decent 41 lber ? You interested -Jones started the year as a pin master ranked 6th , now he is 15th -184 out of Nebraska .
  19. John -just offering -I hope he shows up-you will have to decide who to wrestle for conferences -Washington or Jantzen .I cannot believe he did not wrestle a single match all weekend -I want you to know that I was not trying to take advantage of you -I think the kid is hurt worse than they are letting on . If you wrestle him conferences and get a 0 that will be hard to recover from . Good luck. Russ
  20. I'm gonna keep Jantzen. Will need him at conference and Nationals.
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