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Old 04-25-2008, 03:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default New Nationals system is elitist

What is this qualification crap? It denies a chance to the long shots in my opinion. Look at some weights where there are like 40-50 people in the qualifier today. Say you lose one match to another good guy and you end up wrestling 8-9 matches. How are you supposed to come back and wrestle well the next day against fresh opponents?

Its just dumb. They should just have qualifiers at regionals or something then.
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Old 04-25-2008, 03:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: New Nationals system is elitist

Is that any dumber than having the coaches decide who goes? I think I've heard them do that somewhere? Its on the tip of my tounge, but it starts with a U....no an R.

Big, do you know where that is?
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Old 04-25-2008, 03:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Coaches decide there exactly because some long shots might be better than the elite.
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Default Re: New Nationals system is elitist

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Is that any dumber than having the coaches decide who goes? I think I've heard them do that somewhere? Its on the tip of my tounge, but it starts with a U....no an R.

Big, do you know where that is?
Sadly, I agree with both of you. If we are going to have a system where a long shot gets a chance, which is fantastic and not nearly as elitist as having coaches pick, then don't have the decks so stacked against them. Have the qualifying tournament well before the actual tourney.
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Is that any dumber than having the coaches decide who goes? I think I've heard them do that somewhere? Its on the tip of my tounge, but it starts with a U....no an R.

Big, do you know where that is?
Russia's system shadows their government, though. The USAW picking rankings and then allowing those guys to stay fresh for a tournament against opponents who just wrestled 5-9 matches is a bit tough to swallow. The rankings are essentially "picking" the winners- just not 1 individual.
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Russia's system shadows their government, though.
Which by the way is the best government in the land!
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Which by the way is the best government in the land!
The difference is not in the government, its in the people. America would be nothing without Mexicans and Chinese and Indians doing jobs Americans will not do. Russia is more restrictive.

When I went to Brockport I had to call India to book a hotell!
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The difference is not in the government, its in the people. America would be nothing without Mexicans and Chinese and Indians doing jobs Americans will not do. Russia is more restrictive.

When I went to Brockport I had to call India to book a hotell!
Lazy Americans - not outsourcing, of course - are the reason why the US Nationals WRESTLING program is elitist. It's all making sense now!
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Its a culture thing. Americans are fine with people from foreign countries that speak little English living and working in America. Russia is not so welcoming. That is the difference.
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Oh Russia, how I long for the day in which I can live there!
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