graystone

In my view, the technical aspect of international wrestling really started taking off in the 70s and seemed to become stagnant in the last 10 years. Last years Russians at the worlds was the first group that really impressed me as a group with their set-ups and attacks in awhile. I know there was Satitiev; I think he is incredably physically gifted. I thought he has some really cool tricks on his feet with incredable scrambling ability and defense; I really enjoy watching him wrestle. I remember watching older guys like Pinigin and other Russians from the 70s and 80s doing incredible stuff. It seemed like the Americans were 10 years behind or so in developing more advanced Technique.

henry

I dont know about the whole setup stuff. Because yes Saitiev uses lots of setups, but a Gatsalov to my opinion doesnt have to many. Same goes for murtazaliev. They basically do 2 or 3 techniques all the time, really all the time.
For instance Aldatov (ukr) makes a really strange rotation with his right or left arm before shooting a double legged takedown, which is very suprising beause of that misleading arm.

And yeah, Satiev is physically gifted but I think more mentally developed. He isnt really a physical wrester but knows how to be the director of the match. The only physical plus he has is his flexibility which is almost like a snake.
murtazaliev always shoots from the side to the opponents right leg or pulls the right arm and because behind his opponent.

If you look at Americans to my opinion, they are never really calm, they are always really busy, agressive, moving etc. whereas russians are a lot calmer in their style.
The only 2 persons that could master the american way of wrestling with a lot of agressiveness and movement are 2 my opinion smith and canderson. They both moved alot. And sure fadzaev and those ussr guys were moving alot too, but Im talking about the current wrestling individuals
Russian wrestlers sometimes hardly move or are very relaxed but still cautious for instance Ketoev, looks like the guy steps out of his bed when he comes up.

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graystone

I agree with you about the American style, but I would say that Smith and Sanderson don't really fit in that mold. Look at Kudukhov a great deal of movement with some nice set-ups but much less refined than Smith. The physical style I would say has been heavily influinced by Iowa and the Brands. There is not much deception or what I would say is high technical skill and yes very tight, strong, and trying to overpower. Smith and Sanderson created a great deal of movment, Smith from the outside Sanderson from the ties, but there they had really good set-ups. I am not the biggest fan of Smith's wrestling as far as someone to study, he was such a unusual combination of abilities, although, I do appiciate what he did and how good he was. I think that Cejudo has been hurt by the physical style. He has enough talent to be a tough technical wrestler, but it looks to me he is trying to win the way the Brands did.

Flop The Nuts

Every time I see a posting in this thread, I think that Quick has seeded another torrent. Can we stick to just torrents in this thread?

henry

Quick Single show us humble people your generosity bro.

Im done with Fadzaev, he makes me feel very small..

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2008 World Cup: Pool matches.

Group 1: Russia v. USA, Ukraine v. USA, Russia v. Ukraine
Group 2: Cuba v. Turkey, Turkey v. Uzbekistan, Uzbekistan v. Cuba

Divided by each dual (6), chaptered and labeled.

Enjoy.

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henry

Gracias

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ecpepper

Any chance one of you gracious folk will record and post a torrent of the upcoming NCAA championships (quarters, semis, and finals)? I'd do it myself but no ESPNU out here on the west coast.

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5pointcrossankle

Well I just got high speed internet, and i got the torrent program all ready to go, but nothing will download, the files just sit waiting for sources, help anyone???

saitiev01

for some reason i am not allowed to access tourrents any more, it just says i am not allowed to veiw this page. can anyone help me with this?