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    Would love to get your opinions on whether you feel that wrestling is more of a team sport or individual.

    There has been a good discussion about dropping weight classes to eleminate forfiets. This is so that the dual meets will be more competitive.

    I contend that turnaments are more important to get kids ready for the state meets, which I guess would make it more of an individual sport as most do not make it to States. usually a really good team takes 4-5.

    Please let us know whether you feel it is team(dual meets) or individual.

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    The duals are where we are going to get the most fans. The casual fan is not going to go to the state tournament very often. Duals are where we will get new fans and even new wrestlers. People aren't going to go to the state finals as their first match ever, instead they will go to a local dual meet to watch the local talent.

    Going away from duals will hurt our sport in the long run as most people don't want to sit at a superdual or tournament all day long except parents and the hardcore fans. In Indiana they have instituted a rule that we must have four regular duals during our season.
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    From the perspective of a fan or someone concerned about the future of the sport, Champ Kind is right. Even though the individual battles in a big tournament may overshadow the team scores, the overall fan appeal is in the excitement of a dual meet. But from the perspective of a competitor, wrestling is a very individual sport. Teamwork is blocking for a running back or passing the basketball to the man under the hoop. The only teamwork that happens in wrestling is in the practice room. Personally, I'd rather be a state champion on a losing team than a non-placer on a championship team, and I think most wrestlers feel that way.
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    More often than not as a coach we have to preach team and individual not one or the other. It is important to tell the kids that their success directly leads to team success and that the teams dedication such as good practice partners and accountability lead to individual success. Clearly wrestling is unique and as a coach it is a fine line to walk.

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    I would say that it is probably more of a individual sport when talking about how the athlete competes.

    It is still a team sport as far as the training & coaching kids, how team duals, tri's are won or lost etc.

    A team being on a roll (winning) during a dual (or being on a losing roll) can have a huge effect on the next wrestler coming to the mat. Emotion and confidence can be a huge factor in how well a wrestler does in a given match.
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    a team doing well reflects on the coach. the individual doing well reflects on the individual. some coaches coach for team titles; some coach so each kid gets a a chance to reach his potential.

    a coach should never prostitute the kids so a he can make a name for himself.

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    Great individuals build a great team, but at the same time a great team will foster great individuals.

    If you are building a program, its easier to start with having individuals with success and that will build into the team having success. If you have an established program, having team success will get the best kids in the school out for wrestling. That will lead to even more individual success. Kids want to be a part of TEAMS with success, not just around individuals with success.
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    a team doing well should never be anything other than a by product of improving the kids as individuals.

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    Kids want to be a part of TEAMS with success, not just around individuals with success
    I have seen it both ways. I have seen were there is now way the school has or will make it to states in a team sport yet have had state champs in wrestling and so the kids came out for the team, so that they could possibly make it to states.

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