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    I come from a pretty small school(250) and if we felt we may have a hole in our line up, we'd recruit kids to come out.

    Bottom line is that if coaches weren't lazy and just assume that kids will come to them, this wouldn't be an issue.

    Wrestling has always been about being a sport that anyone of any size can do. Now, you want to be like all the other sports and dictate who can and can't compete based on size. I think this is the stupidest thing MN could be doing to the sport.

    While we struggle to get people out, they want to lead the charge in getting rid of them. Doesn't make any sense.
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    I don't mind there being a 103. I never wrestled lower than 112 (seventh grade) but I agree that we probably don't need to cut at the bottom. I do agree that the weight is weaker than those that are dominated by upper classmen, but I don't know how to fix that problem. I don't know how much going from 103 to 108 would change that.

    As an upper weight, I'm more in favor of spreading out the middle weights just a bit so that the high school weights look more similar to college. That jump from 171 to 189 seems too big of a gap. Especially with the new rules that prevent as much weight cutting. My in season weight was 182 so I had to go down to 171 or else end up wrestling 189 against guys who's non-cut weight was close to 200.

    I'd suggest mirroring ncaa 157, 165, 174, 184, 197, add 220, 275 (maybe going up to 285). Or something very similar.

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    Rick, heavyweight is 285 now!

    1987 was the last time 98lbs was a weight in high school and that was 20 years ago. People are very different now and kids are hitting puberty earlier, therefore there are less lighter weights. I know if we had a 103lber last year he would have had 10-12 wins by forfeit.

    I wouldn't be too upset if they dropped one weight class and went to 13, so we didn't have so many silly tiebreaker rules when we have a tie.

    My ideal 14 weight classes would be.
    108, 114, 120, 126, 132, 138, 146, 152, 160, 171, 180, 189, 215, 285

    Basically make 103lbs into 108lbs and then in the middleweights make it a difference of 6lbs and cut out one weight class and add it at 180lbs.
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    i have to agree with goherfan on this one. minnesota's had some spectacular lightweights come about recenly...it isn't broken so let's not tamper with it..

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    Champ,

    I am not a fan of trying to find four guys in the upper weights from 180, 189, 215 and 285...I think growing up we had a harder time filling those holes than the lower weights.

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    Default Re: Minnesota High School To Vote On Eliminating Weight Classes

    http://http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/rglts/WR06-07.pdf

    The weights are on the 2nd or 3rd page

    I did see what you're talking about on the national website about it going up to 285. OHSAA has either not updated their website or aren't implementing it this year. I guess we'll see.

    My point being that the increase of 10lbs. will help those wrestling coaches who are recruiting a football lineman to fill that spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goferphan View Post
    Champ,

    I am not a fan of trying to find four guys in the upper weights from 180, 189, 215 and 285...I think growing up we had a harder time filling those holes than the lower weights.

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    Start lifting your kids during the winter and you'll have an abundance of them. Football kids want to lift weights in the winter, but if a wrestling coach is preaching cutting weight and no weights it will be harder to find kids that size. Its also a lot easier for me to find a 180lb kid than a 103lb kid, that is for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by therick View Post
    http://http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/rglts/WR06-07.pdf

    The weights are on the 2nd or 3rd page

    I did see what you're talking about on the national website about it going up to 285. OHSAA has either not updated their website or aren't implementing it this year. I guess we'll see.

    My point being that the increase of 10lbs. will help those wrestling coaches who are recruiting a football lineman to fill that spot.
    I don't know how much it will help, but with college football coaches wanting their linemen 300lbs, the 285lb weight class will help get those bigger athletes out. Last year was the first for the 285lb weight class and from my experience in Ohio, they don't catch on to things very fast. I heard they didn't have electricity until the 1990's.
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    Champ kind, just because something may be easier for you or your school to find, it's not that way for every school. Back when I was in High School, we actually had a harder time finding bigger kids that wanted to wrestle. I believe that my junior year was the first year that MN added the 215 weight class and we had no one to fill it.We had our heavyweight at the time cut to 215 and then throw an inexpirenced JV HWT out on the mat, which often resulted in 6 for the other team (which last time i checked was the same amount a team got for a forfeit). And please don't downgrade the ability of our wrestlers. Just because you may think that the ability of a 7th or an 8th grader may not be up to par with a junior or a senior doesn't mean it's true. It's your oppinion. I would rather watch Destin or Eric wrestle than alot of juniors and seniors.

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