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08-13-2008, 04:01 AM
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Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Best Wrestling in the Nation those are the best states but washington has quite a few amazing wrestlers. | | |
08-18-2008, 03:00 AM
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Tournaments Joined: 2 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Best Wrestling in the Nation Notice anything about Ohio, Pennsylvania, California?
By populations they are the among largest states. California (1) , Pennsylvania (6) Ohio (7)
Minnesota does well consistently and has won some national titles and is (21) in population wise.
I'd say that give Minnesota some high standing in the quality of wrestling done here.
I also understand that many of those powerhouse high school teams from out East are private schools and academies. I think that those schools are free to recruit kids. The big powerhouse schools in Minnesota are public schools.
Is Minnesota the best in the nation? When population size is taken into account we are near the top.
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08-18-2008, 04:12 AM
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My Mood: Tournaments Joined: 1 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Best Wrestling in the Nation This thread has all of the the usual conversation on this subject (repeated ad nauseum) including the per capita angle.
"I also understand that many of those powerhouse high school teams from out East are private schools and academies. I think that those schools are free to recruit kids. The big powerhouse schools in Minnesota are public schools."
As I wrote on another forum all of the high profile teams, that are consistently ranked top 20 from year to year, both public and private, get transfers.
I also wrote that the private school, Lakewood St. Edward, probably has gotten fewer tranfers over the last 10 years than ANY of the others, both public and private. That the top public schools are not free to attract (I perfer that word instead of "recruit") talent is an urban myth.
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08-18-2008, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Gold California is only "good" because of their huge population... per capita, they are not nearly as impressive | Geez, only took 5 posts for the per capita justification to rear it's head.
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08-18-2008, 09:36 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Charleston, WV
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Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Best Wrestling in the Nation Im from WV, and have wrestled a bunch of Pa and Ohio guys, there pretty much on the same level. | | |
08-25-2008, 04:18 PM
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Tournaments Joined: 0 Tournament Wins: 0 | Re: Best Wrestling in the Nation When talking about the top tier kids, PA and OH are back and forth, with NJ on their tail, IMHO. CA lagging a little behind them.
But for pure depth, PA is a cut above. It's purely depth. But a 5th or 6th placer in PA is generally one top hombre.
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08-25-2008, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ccbig Notice anything about Ohio, Pennsylvania, California?
By populations they are the among largest states. California (1) , Pennsylvania (6) Ohio (7)
Minnesota does well consistently and has won some national titles and is (21) in population wise.
I'd say that give Minnesota some high standing in the quality of wrestling done here.
I also understand that many of those powerhouse high school teams from out East are private schools and academies. I think that those schools are free to recruit kids. The big powerhouse schools in Minnesota are public schools.
Is Minnesota the best in the nation? When population size is taken into account we are near the top. | Private schools and academies are a non-factor in PA wrestling.
Actually, it's tough to say that PA even has powerhouse teams. The talent is more or less spread out, which in turn accounts for the depth.
One exception my be Easton (which is public) out east. They have long been accused of recruiting and are also probably the most hated team in the state because of it.
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