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    If you get a chance, take a look at the USA Today HS basketball ranking. You'll find ST Anthony's of Jersey #1 and St. Benedict's of Newark #2. St A's has been coached by Bobby Hurley for 30 years and is nationally ranked annually. St'B's is now coached by Bobby Hurley Jr (yup, son) who was an all-american at Duke and played in the NBA. Both schools have significant endowments to grant full scholarships for BBallers. Where Pops attracts the best talent out of Jersey City, sonny boy is picking it out of Newark and Essex County.
    Look further down the list and you'll find St Patricks of Elizabeth NJ. Same deal, sucking the talent out of Union County.

    It has really hurt the local schools and that is where the argument has arisen. On the flip side, these schools work with these kids on getting them educated, more than just academically eligible. For some, as Spider points out, there is a huge social benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RYou View Post
    If you get a chance, take a look at the USA Today HS basketball ranking. You'll find ST Anthony's of Jersey #1 and St. Benedict's of Newark #2. St A's has been coached by Bobby Hurley for 30 years and is nationally ranked annually. St'B's is now coached by Bobby Hurley Jr (yup, son) who was an all-american at Duke and played in the NBA. Both schools have significant endowments to grant full scholarships for BBallers. Where Pops attracts the best talent out of Jersey City, sonny boy is picking it out of Newark and Essex County.
    Look further down the list and you'll find St Patricks of Elizabeth NJ. Same deal, sucking the talent out of Union County.

    It has really hurt the local schools and that is where the argument has arisen. On the flip side, these schools work with these kids on getting them educated, more than just academically eligible. For some, as Spider points out, there is a huge social benefit.
    I remember Bobby Hurley Jr. Duke in the early '90s. Sacramento Kings, got hit by a truck and almost died.

    I am sure this is an issue all over the country. In FL it's more of a football issue than anything else (although some wrestling schools recruit heavily). The thing that bothers me is that around here the prep schools are better than the public schools academically and for many (most) kids athletics is a way for them to attend better schools than they would have been able to attend otherwise. If that causes some other school to lose a few football games I can live with that.

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    Why not make the rules like I heard California just did making home schoolers have tooters. Why don't we just take away all rights of parents raising their kids. Bottom line, parents should raise their kids how they see fit, not how others see fit.

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    No one can take away a kid's right to wrestle.

    He/she can wrestle with the neighbor kids in the backyard all they'd like.

    However, if a kid wants to wrestle in a state's school affiliated wrestling league, then they need to follow the state's rules.

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    alex meade had issues with transfering to easton,pa. and i think great bridge or christiansburg, va.and went back to deleware.

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    IMO, transfering to get a scholarship and furthering your academic future, then do it.

    Where I live I have seen many great athletes passed by because of the school they played at. These college recruiters go where they have had sucsess in the past and miss out on other athletes. So if the kid wants to transfer to a school where he or she will be regonized then why shouldn't they.

    Remember not all athelets are doing it just for the sport. They are doing it to further their education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetdad View Post
    Why not make the rules like I heard California just did making home schoolers have tooters. Why don't we just take away all rights of parents raising their kids. Bottom line, parents should raise their kids how they see fit, not how others see fit.
    Not so, Vetdad. Parents don't have the right to deny their kids an education, and if they choose to use the public schools toward this end, they must follow the rules (as was well said by Ground&Pound).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetdad View Post
    Why not make the rules like I heard California just did making home schoolers have tooters. Why don't we just take away all rights of parents raising their kids. Bottom line, parents should raise their kids how they see fit, not how others see fit.
    I'm with you Vetdad. To many rules. And Spider, how is moving into a great wrestling program depriving one of an education? From an education standpoint the top wrestling schools, projected for 2008-2009, are head and shoulders above most as far as quality education.

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    While sympathetic with thoughts about freedom of choice, one must look at this from the perspective of the governing institutions and their desire to see a level playing field for athletics. I'm in favor of Ohio's rules restricting the activities of coaches. I'm also in favor of Ohio's rules prohibiting competitions that pit junior-high schoolers against high schoolers. However, I would not be in favor of more restrictive rules that would delve into the decision making of parents and student-athletes (assuming no involvement of a coach). As long as residency requirements are met (in honest fashion) then eligibility should not be a question.

    The case of former Eds wrestler Andrew Gasbar illustrated another rule that was little understood. Even though the Eds principle signed off on the transfer, as was required, he still was deemed ineligle for obscure reasons involving distance. That was a shame.

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