transfer controversy

Schlottke · 01-29-2008, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Spider

No, no, no. This is all wrong and perverted. Athletics are part of a well rounded education, but winning is not. Changing schools to increase one's chances of success in sports distorts the whole purpose of athletics and sends very wrong and dangerous messages to kids, namely: 1) winning is what's important in sports, 2) it's okay to bend the rules to get what you want, 3) a sport is so important that it justifies leaving an otherwise satisfactory academic institution. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

How about a poor kid who isn't going to get a 4.0, but knows he will get a scholarship for wrestling and be able to continue his education beyond high school by attending a High School with a better wrestling program?

UGLY · 01-29-2008, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by Schlottke

How about a poor kid who isn't going to get a 4.0, but knows he will get a scholarship for wrestling and be able to continue his education beyond high school by attending a High School with a better wrestling program?

Why would tranferng schools boost his ability to go to college? If he is good and puts up results it doesnt matter where you go to school. I would also hope that coaches who may have connections to college programs would recommend those coaches look at the best kids they see.

Spider · 01-29-2008, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Schlottke

How about a poor kid who isn't going to get a 4.0, but knows he will get a scholarship for wrestling and be able to continue his education beyond high school by attending a High School with a better wrestling program?

Do you think he's more qualified to attend college than the kid with a 4.0 or even a 3.0 grade average who will be rejected because a jock took his spot? College is an institiution of higher education, not tougher competition.

Schlottke · 01-29-2008, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by UGLY

Why would tranferng schools boost his ability to go to college? If he is good and puts up results it doesnt matter where you go to school. I would also hope that coaches who may have connections to college programs would recommend those coaches look at the best kids they see.

haha, well in the story Im using "he was in a school district that didnt have wrestling in high school."

Schlottke · 01-29-2008, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Spider

Do you think he's more qualified to attend college than the kid with a 4.0 or even a 3.0 grade average who will be rejected because a jock took his spot? College is an institiution of higher education, not tougher competition.

A 3.5 student doesn't get an scholarship.... a 3.5 student with a couple state titles does. Moving to a school for wrestling to separate yourself isn't bad.

UGLY · 01-29-2008, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Schlottke

haha, well in the story Im using he was in a school district that didnt have wrestling in high school.

Thats a different story. I went one year to a school that didnt have football so I was allowed to play for another team in a near by town. The letter I recieved had to come from the school I attended not the school I played for.

Schlottke · 01-29-2008, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by UGLY

Thats a different story. I went one year to a school that didnt have football so I was allowed to play for another team in a near by town. The letter I recieved had to come from the school I attended not the school I played for.

I probably didn't describe it well enough to start... lol.. fun to get in a little argument for once..

Spider · 01-29-2008, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Schlottke

A 3.5 student doesn't get an academic scholarship.... a 3.5 student with a couple state titles does. Moving to a school for wrestling to separate yourself isn't bad.

Admittedly, I don't know all that much about how scholarships are awarded, but I do know that many if not most colleges take need into account once a student qualifies for admission academically. I also believe (could be wrong . . .) that most athletic scholarships are based only on athletic performance, and admission standards may be lowered for a highly talented athlete. So I repeat, if a poor student is admitted because he is academically qualified, there will probably be money available. An athlete should not, however, be admitted over a more academically qualified applicant. I know that this is a very idealistic view and not the way it works, but this discussion is about what's right, not what's real.

And yes, these discussions are fun.

Schlottke · 01-29-2008, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Spider

He should not, however, be admitted over a more academically qualified applicant. I know that this is a very idealistic view and not the way it works, but this discussion is about what's right, not what's real.

I definitely agree that a lesser student should be admitted to college over someone who is definitely superior academically... my point was simply that a transfer because you know that a sport will give you the extra boost on your resume to differentiate yourself from all the other 3.5's...

Spider · 01-29-2008, 10:47 PM

Okay, I guess if a kid is really good at something and his school doesn't offer it at all, it is reasonable to want to attend a school where it is offered . . . BUT . . . I think that most parents who move their kids around do it because they see winning as an end in itself and put sports ahead of academics, not because they want to beef up the kid's college application.

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