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    Default I don't know if I want to continue...

    Just a little backstory before I go into my question.

    I was not born a naturally gifted athlete, nor was I born with a gifted athletic body. But I was born with a semi-athletic mind. When I was younger I did everything. Soccer, Skiing, T-Ball, Football for 1 year. But the thing was, I wasn't in very good shape. Lets just say by 5th grade I had a 2nd chin.

    Now I entered Wrestling at 6th grade.I was a naive little fat kid who thought that wrestling would be like WWE. Boy, was I wrong. It was really tough for me my first year, I was out of shape and I had no idea what I was doing. The whole time I would cry to my mother begging to quit and she would not let me.

    So I told myself in 7th grade that I would not do it again. But something about wrestling, that feeling made me want to contuine the sport, and I did. and happily my very first match in 7th grade i won! I was extatic. Now in Middle School Wrestling where I lived the season was 4 dual meets and 2 tournaments. And trust me I really, really, REALLY wanted a medal my 7th and 8th grade year. But I never got it... and It killed me inside. 6 times in 3 years I had sat down in the stands congradlating my team mates on thier medals and yet I couldn't have one on my own.

    So In my 3 years of middle school wrestling I got a pretty good body (well alot better than where i was) But stilll no medal. So When I moved down here to Tenneessee I had no idea what to expect in High School Wrestling. So I joined my team and well lets just say I was introduced to weight cutting. Granted in middle I watched my weight and worked out after practice. But my freshmen year I came in at 5 "6" and 143 lbs. Now I had the hardest time maintaing 140 last year. I wore layers, I cut out some foods. Then on Tournament days I would end up stuffing my face and the process went on again. But unfournately. I STILL didn't get my damn medal in freshmen year! Even in the freshmen only tournaments I just..couldn't win. So I told myself I would work extra hard over the off season. I joined football and let thier weight lifting program take me over. I even went to a wrestling camp to broaden my already fundametally sound move set. I've a very good techincially wrestler...I just don't have great arm Strength

    But a Sophmore this year I expected the worst and boy did I get it. I came in at 5 "8" and 146 lbs and was ready to tackle anything in my path. And so far My Biggest enemy has been weight control and weight classes. See I had originally told myself 140 because I can't beat anyone at 145. Well I hit my training plan hard. My usual day would be this

    Breakfast: Banana
    Lunch: 2 peices of turkey, 1 peice of whole wheat bread, and an apple
    Practice: Layers would include Under Armour, a shirt, and a hoodie in a heat induced wrestling room. Most of the time we'd run between 1.5-2 miles then wrestle. By then I'm soaking wet and dehydrated when I got home
    Dinner:Salmon, a Salad, and some yogurt. Then I would also run some more. I started out running 1.1 miles, then 2.2. Eventually I weighted in at Hydration test 138 lbs and 9.something body fat. They told me the most I could go down was 132, which meant I could wrestle 135. Now I'm naturally at 146 person and I didn't want to get down to 135. I would feel like shit, I'd be crancky, my body just doesn't like it. But...because I can't beat the 140 either and our 135 can't maintain his weight I had to get down to 135....and lets just say that I don't enjoy being down here at all. To maintain weight I end up eating a Banana, same lunch as before, and a salad with chicken almost everday! THATS IT! Whenever I get the snack munchies I usually end up eating a shit load of grapes, melon, whatever fruit I can find. If I'm not at school then I end up running 5.2 Miles a day. Thats what I did at Thanksgiving to make sure I stayed down after eating.

    I can't take all this feeling hungry and being sore constanly and not getting something out of it, granted my body has adjusted to my new diet. My weight is taking over my life, and I'm paranoid about it. I like Wrestling alot, and If I hadn't joined in middle school there's no way I would have the body I have today. Trust me I couldn't have imagined ever being able to run 5 miles everday for a week. But I don't want to live like this, and I just want some appreication *cough* A MEDAL *cough* for all this hard work. I must have put in at least over 70 miles running into wrestling. Everyday I'm starting to lean towards quitting if I don't get a medal this year. Yes my mind will say "ALL THAT WORK FOR NOTHING" and so on But I'm just sick, and tired of living in misery. Sick and tired of sitting at the lunch table with an apple while everyone else is eating real food and not giving a care in the world about thier weight. And with the holiday's coming up the ever tempting holiday cookies I will be sorrunded bye. I just...don't know what to do.

    Thoughts?
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    Default Re: I don't know if I want to contuine...

    It seems like your eating less but not eating smart enough. Less is not always better. When you eat less your will body will lower its metabolism and save up on your fat. Just eat healthy 5-6 meals a day but at smaller increments (make sure they are low in fat and sugars). Your metabolism will go up and you will burn more fat. Now add onto that all the running and going to the gym if possible and you will have a much easier time making weight. Not only that, but your body will be at much better shape.

    I am not a diet/nutrition professional or anything, but this is what I've learned over the internet. I may not word it the best or be the most detailed. Give me a personal message and I'll direct you to helpful links (not sure if I'm allowed to post them here).
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    Default Re: I don't know if I want to contuine...

    Thx, I'll think about it..

    Most of the time though.My breakfast will be at around 6:45ish. Lunch is at 12:15. And I used to get home at 6 But now anytime between 4:30-6. I would then usually do a little homework, go for my run. Then eat dinner at around 8. If I was still hungry then like I said I would nibble on some grapes, melon, etc...

    My life will be alot easier weight wise once January 1, 2009 happens. Then they automatically give us 2 lbs...But I just wish that like...I got something out of it you know? Its painful when Your a 5 year wrestler sitting on the stands watching some stupid new guy get a medal just because he has bigger arms than you. I've also for some reason really, really wanted to bake ever since I joined. Idk, maybe my body is just going into withdrawls or something lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    Its painful when Your a 5 year wrestler sitting on the stands watching some stupid new guy get a medal just because he has bigger arms than you.
    It seems to me that you aren't confident in your self enough. Which won't put you at your best. Psychologically you have to believe in yourself and you can't be intimidated by bigger arms or muscles.

    Actually bigger arms has nothing to do with strength. That is why you see body builders' muscles triple the size of a weightlifter or more but the weightlifter can lift way more. That is because how big their muscle is (bulk) has nothing to do with real strength. Their arms will just get tired more quickly for nothing.

    What is your weights workout like? Do you go to the gym?
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    Default Re: I don't know if I want to contuine...

    If you don't enjoy the sport at all, don't do it. With that said, I would just wrestle at your comfortable weight, have fun with it, and learn what you can.

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    Default Re: I don't know if I want to contuine...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gold View Post
    If you don't enjoy the sport at all, don't do it. With that said, I would just wrestle at your comfortable weight, have fun with it, and learn what you can.
    He enjoys the sport but doesn't enjoy all the weight cutting and not eating. It is just that he isn't approaching his diet the right way.
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    Default Re: I don't know if I want to contuine...

    Move up in weight. Keeping your weight down all the time sucks. You'll probably feel better and wrestle better at a higher weight class. It isn't (if I understand you correctly) like you're dominating everyone at the lower weight class, so what's the point? You may as well not be miserable.

    BTW I'm not really familiar with American high school wrestling practices, but how often do you actually compete? There's not much point in dehydrating yourself every practice if you aren't weighing in afterwards. No need to "cut" any more than you have to. Perhaps try going to practice "fresh"; work on becoming a better wrestler. If you need to go for a run, do it afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestling_Prodigy View Post
    It seems to me that you aren't confident in your self enough. Which won't put you at your best. Psychologically you have to believe in yourself and you can't be intimidated by bigger arms or muscles.

    Actually bigger arms has nothing to do with strength. That is why you see body builders' muscles triple the size of a weightlifter or more but the weightlifter can lift way more. That is because how big their muscle is (bulk) has nothing to do with real strength. Their arms will just get tired more quickly for nothing.

    What is your weights workout like? Do you go to the gym?
    My High School is currently remodeling its Weight Room, and so I haven't done weights in a good month or so

    I did all my weight training in the off season with the football team. Lemme think..at my highest...I was benchin....shyoot....150ish? My squat was at like 280 though. I've got really really meaty legs

    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    Move up in weight. Keeping your weight down all the time sucks. You'll probably feel better and wrestle better at a higher weight class. It isn't (if I understand you correctly) like you're dominating everyone at the lower weight class, so what's the point? You may as well not be miserable.

    BTW I'm not really familiar with American high school wrestling practices, but how often do you actually compete? There's not much point in dehydrating yourself every practice if you aren't weighing in afterwards. No need to "cut" any more than you have to. Perhaps try going to practice "fresh"; work on becoming a better wrestler. If you need to go for a run, do it afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestling_Prodigy View Post
    He enjoys the sport but doesn't enjoy all the weight cutting and not eating. It is just that he isn't approaching his diet the right way.
    Plz, do explain

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    Default Re: I don't know if I want to contuine...

    So... you have lots of competition. Definitely consider a move up in weight (or, at least, "wrestle up" for some tournaments if your regulations allow it). It can't be healthy to be dehydrated for several days at a time.

    And between, say, the 13th and the 17th and the 21st and the 27th there's no point in dehydrating. Take a break from the sweaters and stuff. If you need to drop more water weight than you can sweat out in a 24 hour period you are definitely cutting too much weight.

    Finally consider that many of the best wrestlers in the world (Olympic champs Gatsalov, Batriov, Muradov from this year alone) won gold after moving up a weight. Smaller opponents does not always mean more sucess. Cutting lots of weight can seriously hinder your preformance (watch video of 2007 world champ Ketoev exhausted at this year's Olympics, or last years NCAA champs Jaggers and Slaton struggle this year because of weight issues). At leat consider the posibility that you might have more success at a more comfortable weight.
    Last edited by arm-spin; 12-07-2008 at 05:55 PM.

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