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    As I mentioned they are legal-but in reality 9 out of 10 x's you'll be called for a slam or an illegal hands lock os some such crap-I talked to a few ref's and they are terrified of getting sued if they don't call it and the throwee gets injured -so they just call the slam -it sucks but that is the human element coming in to play .
    How many times have you been or have taken a guy down outof bounds and the ref lets it stand ? Same thing only magnified .

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    It's lift and lifts require the return of the opponent to the mat under control. It's called a slam because most kids do not have control over the how the opponent is returned to the mat. As a matter of risk versus reward, the risks far outweigh the potential reward.
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    Well all i know is the throw has to be controlled for it to be legal and if its potentially dangerous to either wrestler then it is illegal. but there are allot of ignorant refs out there, so try to avoid them and only use if necessary or last resort.

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    On any life, the opponent must be brought back to the mat safely. Since there is no way to control the return to the mat for a suplex, it deemed a slam. It's move that is best avoided in folkstyle.
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    I believe suplexs are only legal in freestyle and greco. Not folkstyle. My son got dq'd for not "returning a man to the mat without injury" in folkstyle. A 5 point move at Fargo, but not OK in folkstyle. As soon as you lift a man off the mat, you are responsible for returning him to the mat without harm. By the way, the other guy was knocked unconscious and was taken to the hospital. It resulted in a disqualification and a lecture from this dad. The other guy had a minor concussion, but it shouldn't have happened. Folkstyle, don't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmiller View Post
    I am sure this has been asked before but I can't figure out where the search function is. My question is, are back suplexes specifically forbidden in Folkstyle? I have asked my coaches in the past, and got two different answers. One told me that they were illegal, the other said they were perfectly legal. I decided to do some research.

    I know there is a "slam rule" but the slam rule is very general and doesn't mention any specific throws.
    Further more, I have to date not found an enumerated list of illegal throws. Based on this information, if I can perform the suplex throw (or any throw for that matter) in such a way as to reduce the impact to a tolerable level, wouldn't the technique technically be legal?

    Is there something I am missing?
    As long as you go down as the same time your within the legal rules to do a back suplex. With this said, it can be hard on a wrestlers back, so be careful.

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