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    Rick, some schools don't have freshman and jv programs.

    Fan, I didn't take offense to the original post, however, I do take offense to this thinking that 9th grade is junior high. It is not. High school is 9th-12th grades. I don't like the proposals, but am willing to concede if they drop the weight allowances given throughout the year. The smallest proposal, 106, becomes 110 towards the end. The larger proposal, 110, becomes 114. With these "allowances" you will effectively kill 103.

    One other thing, I keep hearing about the 112-115 lbers will be able to cut less. Here's a thought, wrestle your weight and quit the hardcore cutting. You lose enough weight if you're practicing hard enough.

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    I like B. I would also think that adding an extra weight in the middle (instead of 152, 160, 170), make it 150, 157, 162, 170 would be a good move.. The more opportunities for anyone, at any age 7th grade - 12th (depending on you're state's rules), is a better thing. The thought that 10-12th graders are the only people that should be on varsity seems a bit out of touch with the quality of the 7-9th grade wrestlers these days. I'd be open to an unlimited class in some states (where football is very popular and you've got some big boys that can't make it down.)

    Get it up to 15 weights so there can't be a tie by wins. You will water down the competition and make it tough for some squads to field a full team, but if you're out recruiting middle school kids, football players, and other people I really think most schools can fill a roster. (Small schools will have a much tougher time without a history)

    I really would like to see Jeff Jordan (St. Paris) and Jim Jackson (Apple Valley) discuss what they do to pull in talent, because aside from their move-ins they really have good feeder programs. In Jackson's case, he's a physical education teacher at the middle school where many of the kids would otherwise go to Eastview (Apple Valley's other HS)

    I don't know if this position is deliberate (being at the border middle school), but he definitely has the ability to sway the kids he sees as budding stars to open enroll into AVHS instead of EVHS.

    One thing that may also want to be tossed around is that most states have the exact same weights. It makes it easier for state to state battles but if the states had their own weight class systems (which would undoubtedly still be rather similar) they'd be able to use their personal experience to build a fair/balanced lineup. When you left the state to compete you make your opponent's weight class, not yours. It'd add a different dynamic to the sport, provide more control at the state level, and let states with deep talent pools (PA, OH, CA) to allow for more weights. Of course, there would be a lot of issues to deal with on this particular issue, but it's something to think about.
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    i like this 107 116 122 128 132 139 144 150 157 164 170 185 197 225 HWT
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    does anyone know whether the new weight classes might actually be implemented? or is this just an idea that is floating around, but deliberation will take years and it if it actually was put in place, it would be in 2015?

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    Ballets were sent out in Oklahoma. They are currently being completed, compiled, and submitted. As I understand the change will happen before the 2010-2011 season.

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    these weight classes would be cool in Ca i would Wrestle 150 157 or 164
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    I ambiguously agree that ?option ?D? ? leave it the hell alone? is the way to go. Why do we need to mess with something that has worked since 1988?
    If they go to a 110 pound class, they should make a 103 pound weight class for freshman only. Let?s be honest. That 95 or 98 pound freshman, in less he is freakishly strong or has prefect technique. He does not stand a chance against that Junior or Senior who is cutting 5 or 6 pounds to make 110 pounds.
    If they do go with one of these new weigh classes are they also going to eliminate the grow allowance?

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    Ive been told that Tennessee has already approved one of the options. Our 103 2 years ago weighed 95 pounds and was outmuscled by 103s cutting from around 120, and I know for a fact this kid is extremely talented. He still won but it made things much tougher on him. They might be implemented next season

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    would this be implemented in prep school leagues as well?

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