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    Can anybody recommend a good defensive strategy against a tight waist underhook ride?

    I'm trying to prepare one of our wrestlers for the man to beat in our conference in his weight class. The opposition is a tall lanky wrestler who mostly counter wrestles in neutral. On top he uses his long arms to sink a deeply wrapped tight waist with a same side tight underhook or goes under the chest and locks the far shoulder/neck area.

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    Shouldnt be hard at all for your guy to hit a sit out, get hand control on the waist, and cut out.
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    Or, if you are familiar with the tripod series from down, have your guy tripod with hand control and hit a peterson.
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    Thanks for the responses. This guy has comparatively long arms for his weight class...long enough such that his tight waists wrap across the back, all the way across the stomach, up the side, and a few inches across the near-side back. I've noticed he often also tight waists near-side underneath the stomach, up the far side, and a few inches across the far-side back and then snakes his other arm underneath bottom's chest with a tight lock on the far-side trapezius. In both scenarios, there's no hand to grab, as his hand wraps through to the back. It's such a long and tight wrap that it stops the sit-out if not executed quickly enough.

    Tripod to a peterson sounds like a good plan of attack, and we've been working on those a bit lately.

    Thanks for the fresh perspectives.

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    It also sounds to me like a real effort should go into getting hand control right off the whistle.

    If he gets that tight waist and he's not sure what to do, find out of bounds and get a fresh start.

    If his arms are wrapped that much around his back, then he is out of position on one of the sides, Pressure into him, and get wrists then clear out.
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    Additionally, a few sit outs back to back will loosen up and should make it more possible to get out. What pinning combination is he even working for?
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    I've only seen the guy wrestle twice...the last of which I recorded a week ago. He's a counter wrestler on his feet, a seemingly 100% switch guy on the bottom, and a tight waist guy on top. From what I've seen, he mainly tries to work tilts and stacks from the tight waist or string the guy out to get his legs in (although he doesn't seem effective in turning the guy once his legs are in). I have a video of him from last week, but since I've only made two posts so far, this forum will not let me post the full youtube link. Putting "watch?v=G3SzFNHw9n0" without the quotes after the base youtube URL will take you to it.

    He's the one in the red singlet.

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    Tough kid. On top look for chops/spiral ride to counter that inside switch(Also, know that on your feet he'll look inside switch if your guy shoots hi-c)

    On top, I still think that sit outs will be perfect. Even when he goes Claw/tight waist.
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    Thanks a million for the ideas.

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