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    I am a second year coach, well I'm going to be entering my second year. Last year I really fumbled through and did a lot of thing wrong. I had a pretty major personal tragedy at the beginning of the year--our first child died just hours after he was born--and I almost quit. Anyway it was a tough year and I learned a lot of things, primarily that I need a better plan this year.

    I am going to ask my wrestlers, administrators and wrestling community many of these questions as well but before I do I would like to get an idea of how they 'might' respond.
    for the wrestlers

    • What are some of the things that you would like your team to stand for? i.e. when your community and other teams think of your team what do you want them to think of--not moves but attributes.
    • What are some things that your program does that you like? What traditions does your team have that help build teams?
    • What are some of the things that your team does that you do not like?
    • If you were the coach what would three things would your program do?

    For the coaches/administrators

    • What does your team stand for and what did you do to establish that?
    • What are some of the things that you do to build team? Traditions, and non-hazing initiations.
    • What are some mistakes that you see coaches--especially young ones make?
    • What advice would you give a first/second/year coach?

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    What advice would you give a first/second/year coach?
    Be mindful of the ability and drive of your athletes. You cannot put your drive or desire to win above what is best for your athletes nor can you instill that into them. They either have a fierce desire to compete and win or they don't and each at a different level.

    An example. I am overly competitive in everything I do. If we are playing tiddly winks I am disgusted if I lose and would do everything within the rules to win. After losing I would practice continually until I beat you the next time we played. Some kids on my team don't have that drive. They are moderately successful making the consolation finals often. They just will not go the extra mile to do what it takes to win that semi instead of losing it. I don't like it, but if they are ok with it and can continually win the wrestle offs I have to be ok with it.

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    I have seen some coaches so hung up on winning they overlook the when a kid tried their best in a loss.

    Recognize when a wrestler has given great effort. Skills & technique can be improved but coaching a desire to compete can be very hard. When you know a kid is giving that extra effort make sure to acknowledge it.

    Example- My favorite memory of one of my wrestlers was a match he lost.

    He was a fairly new wrestler. During the 3rd period of a match his opponent was taking him from a standing position and slamming him to the mat rather forcefully (in a legal way) onto my wrestlers shoulder.

    My wrestler being new did not know yet how to defend against this move. After each take down my wrestler would fight to regain position and work his way to an escape.

    After the 2nd or 3rd hard slam many new wrestlers might have given up. My wrestler was slammed what seemed like 5 or 6 times.

    Near the end of the period the wrestler who was slamming my wrestler was so frustrated and tired my wrestler was able to take him down and was going for the pin himself when time ran out.

    I was so proud for my wrestler of his determination to continue to battle and refuse to roll over and give up. I used his example of continuing to try hard and give full effort all match to my wrestlers for the next few weeks.

    This made a powerful & good impression upon that wrestler and many of the other wrestlers on the team.
    If we don't fight hard enough for the things we stand for, at some point we have to recognize that we don't really stand for them.

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    A coach's job, as I see it, is to make each kid the best wrestler he can be and the best person he can be (within the limits of your opportunity). For some kids, the best they can do in wrestling is winning a state championship or beyond. For others, it's going six minutes without getting pinned. Both are worthy of high praise.

    You will create good citizens in part by setting an example of good sportsmanship, ethical behavior, and respect for them, their opponents, and the officials, and letting your players know that you expect nothing less from them. Never forget that wrestling is a means to an end, not an end in itself.
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    One other thing:

    Every senior who doesn't place first, third or fifth in his final tournament will end his career with a loss. I tell this kid: "When you think back on your high school career, don't focus on that last match, it was just one out of many. You've had a great career and done a lot for the team and for yourself, so you owe it to yourself to take credit for all of your accomplishments, and not just dwell on one disappointment."
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    Our coach did a couple of things that really set him apart from other coaches I have played for. We have weekly awards, and I'm never the kind of guy who would win those. I was a new wrestler who wasn't great but I always tried my hardest every single practice, and I got the practice wrestler of the week award. Now I know to all the state champs and whatever out there who think "yeah, big deal, you suck", you don't care, it's nothing. But to me, it showed our coach really watches the team, he doesn't just give all the awards to the big name seniors, everybody gets a fair shot with him. He treats every wrestler like the have a chance to be something great. Another thing that stood out was after we lost a big dual to the team we were competing with 1st place for. The whole year we had our minds set to winning the title. The whole team was crushed. We all knew we could win the title and it was narrowly taken away from us. Every wrestler left their heart and soul out on the mat. The next day at practice, everybody had their head held low, and it was quiet. Sometimes at the end of practice, if everybody busted their butt, we would play some sort of "wrestling game". But this practice we started out with one. It was tiring but we were all having a good time, and we started to forget the sting of losing. After our coach said "I know losing sucks, but all of you gave it your all out there, and sometimes you have to remember that wrestling is about having a little fun too, don't worry about the loss, there was nothing more we could have done". Trust me, our coach is a very serious and well respected man, and I didn't expect him to do that, but it was exactly what the team needed. Yeah, that all sounds cheesy and whatever, but seriously it showed what a great coach we had. About your child, I am very sorry, that is devastating. I couldn't coach after that, and I salute you for being able to.

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    Kyle,

    I sounds to me like you're lucky to have that coach and he's lucky to have you. Believe me, no one on this website worth listening to thinks that the "practice wrestler of the week" award is something trivial. As I said in my post above, wrestling isn't about being a champion, it's about being the best you can be, and the only way to do that is to give 100% in practice. Good luck.

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    About a year ago I was talking to someone that has coached from high school to the international level and he said, "In high school you have the greatest influence on their wrestling, in college you have the greatest influence on their lives and at the international level you have the greatest influence on the sport."

    The person that said that is coaching in Beijing today.

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    wow that's neat!

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