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    I go back and forth on this one. On one hand, if we did the Russian system, Jamill Kelly never would have won a silver medal in 2004. But when I look at our Greco team for this year, though I'm thrilled for Diechtler, I definitely think Harry Lester would bring us better results. I hope the kid proves me wrong, but the Olympics are a mighty big stage to make your international debut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    Its a clash of mentalities. Western mentality is to give an opportunity to anyone that wins on that one given date. In many other countries its about who can deliver the best results. So, they sit in a room and talk about who they should send.
    Sitting in a room talking about it is a terrible way to decide a team.
    The Russians have success because they are the best wrestlers in the world and have incredible depth. I like our system and it has put forth more than one wrestler who looked like a bad choice that has brought a medal.

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    Russians don't look for medals. They look for Gold. A silver medal is a failure for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    Canada has one tournament.
    We also have a really confusing system of match protests, injury exemptions, injury non-exemptions and extra wrestle offs. We have a pretty good system for our trials (top 3 from last year's nationals are put in a ladder format, everyone else wrestles in a pool) but I swear we just make up the "extra" rules a we go along,

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    Prizreni from Albania didn't have to try out. I don't think he ever did. He is simply on the team. Obviously Albania is no powerhouse, but when he was going back to Albania I asked him if he'll need to have a wrestle off. He said no way, but I'd kill whoever is there anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestater View Post
    I go back and forth on this one. On one hand, if we did the Russian system, Jamill Kelly never would have won a silver medal in 2004. But when I look at our Greco team for this year, though I'm thrilled for Diechtler, I definitely think Harry Lester would bring us better results. I hope the kid proves me wrong, but the Olympics are a mighty big stage to make your international debut.
    Deitchler has some international experience, just not at the senior level. He was in Bulgaria in March. He wrestled in Bejing. Pan Ams?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Deitchler has some international experience, just not at the senior level. He was in Bulgaria in March. He wrestled in Bejing. Pan Ams?
    It's not experience until it's at the senior level, sorry.

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    Blue, Its rare, but I disagree with you just a bit.

    I think any experience over sees counts as experience. It HAS to be a stressful situation going to the places where wrestlers go, Ulan Bator, Baku, etc. (where are those places, are they by The Iraq?) I think going overseas to wrestle once or twice before any competition improves the likelyhood of success.

    Obviously, saying Jake has experience is suspect, but wrestling overseas counts for something. We'll see how much it counts for in august.

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    Ulan Bator (or Ulaanbaatar) is the capital of Mongolia. Baku is in Azerbaijan, just north of Iran.

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