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    Default Russian wrestlers all ph. edu student or teacher?

    Whats up with some russian wrestlers being physical education student or teacher.??

    <table class="normal" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="dunkel"><td class="w_14_fett">Murtazaliev, Makhach (RUS)</td> <td align="left" valign="middle"></td> </tr> <tr> <td> <table border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Date of birth:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">1984-06-04 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Height:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">170 cm</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Weight:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">77 kg</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Club:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">CSKA;Moscow </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Coach:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">Abdulchakhman Mirzaev;1996 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Profession:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">student p.e. </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">active since:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">1996 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">FILA-ID:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">16829 </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td><td align="center" valign="middle"></td></tr></tbody></table>
    <table class="normal" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="dunkel"><td class="w_14_fett">Saitiev, Bouvaisa (RUS)</td> <td align="left" valign="middle"></td> </tr> <tr> <td> <table border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Date of birth:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">1975-03-11 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Height:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">183 cm</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Weight:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">79 kg</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Club:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">national team Russia </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Coach:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">Dmitri Mindiashvili Hamid Saitiev </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Profession:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">p.e. instructor, athlete </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">active since:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">1985 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">FILA-ID:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">12286 </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td><td align="center" valign="middle"></td></tr></tbody></table>


    <table class="normal" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="dunkel"><td class="w_14_fett">Gatsalov, Khadshimourad (RUS)</td> <td align="left" valign="middle"></td> </tr> <tr> <td> <table border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Date of birth:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">1982-12-11 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Height:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">178 cm</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Weight:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">96 kg</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Club:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">CSKA;Moscow </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Coach:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">Vladislav Ceboev;since 1997 Vladimir Golubev;since 2008 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Profession:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">finished p.e. studies in 2003; p.e. instructor </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">active since:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">1993 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">FILA-ID:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">7195 </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td><td align="center" valign="middle"></td></tr></tbody></table>


    <table class="normal" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="dunkel"><td class="w_14_fett">Batirov, Adam (RUS)</td> <td align="left" valign="middle"></td> </tr> <tr> <td> <table border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Date of birth:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">1985-01-13 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Height:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">164 cm</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Weight:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">67 kg</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Club:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">Shamil Umachanov;Chasavyurt </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Coach:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">Sallim Nudsakhanov;since 1995 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">Profession:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">student p.e. </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">active since:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">1992 </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bl_8_left_fett" width="120">FILA-ID:</td> <td class="bl_10_left" width="250">1075 </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td><td align="center" valign="middle"></td></tr></tbody></table>

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    Default Re: Russian wrestels all ph. edu student or teacher?

    In Russia wrestlers have titles such as candidate into master of sport, master of sport, international master of sport and so on. The more you win the higher your title becomes. Everyone over 22 years of age or so along with a master of sport title or higher gets a Bacherlor's in PE along with it. They take some courses but its nothing like American colleges.

    Basically they figure anyone with great results in wrestling has enough experience to get a PE degree.

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    A lot of them have law degrees as well.

    BTW that is some cauli that Busik has on his right ear. Wow.

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    agree bout the cauli, is busik a nickname saitiev goes by?

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    the law degree is, i guess to get into politics after the wrestling career.

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    Default Re: Russian wrestels all ph. edu student or teacher?

    Quote Originally Posted by henry View Post
    the law degree is, i guess to get into politics after the wrestling career.
    Exactly! It is really a great strategy since nobody is more respected than wrestlers in some of those Caucas regions and they readily accept wrestlers as their representatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinartist View Post
    is busik a nickname saitiev goes by?
    Yes it is a diminutive form of Buvaisar. Same way Tolik is a nickname for Anatoliy, Sasha for Aleksandr, Misha for Mikhail, etc. Same way we have Tony for Anthony and Bob for Robert, etc.

    Although Buvaisar is not a Russian (Slavic) name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    Exactly! It is really a great strategy since nobody is more respected than wrestlers in some of those Caucas regions and they readily accept wrestlers as their representatives.

    Thats what I meant with Buvaiser being more busy with meeting people and getting more influence in certain regions than training.
    Thats what I heard from people who trained in krasnayarsk.
    Anyways these things happen in a lot of countries. It just has to do with the respect and status of a sport or music or even acting etc. in certain countries.

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    Every country has its own way of system and they do things. For Buyvasar Saytiev getting his degree through being master of sport it's important to understand that he will remain only as master of sport in wrestling. For that reason he will coach wretling only. The degree that western world offers has greater affect because it's dimentional and anyone can seek emplyoment in different places. There is no right or wrong for to think that Russian must do things like USA do is naive or other way around. Both countries have the same outcome but this also depends on the individual.

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