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    But if you tell your lay female friend while watching the match: "We have to wait for the ball to determine the wrestler with the favorable hold, she will possbly get excited and more into it".

    In 2000 it wasn't Soviet Union anymore but the fact of the matter is Karelin was a Soviet product and defeating him meant almost like the end of Cold war as was portrayed by the media. Do you think it would be as important if Karelin was Canadian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    But if you tell your lay female friend while watching the match: "We have to wait for the ball to determine the wrestler with the favorable hold, she will possbly get excited and more into it".

    In 2000 it wasn't Soviet Union anymore but the fact of the matter is Karelin was a Soviet product and defeating him meant almost like the end of Cold war as was portrayed by the media. Do you think it would be as important if Karelin was Canadian?
    My Mother-in-law is a huge Olympic fan and loves watching gymnastics, diving, figure skating etc. She is the target audience that the networks (and therefore FILA) wants to attract. She does not follow any sports or watch any sports on TV besides the Olympics, but will watch hour after hour of anything the network puts on during the Olympics. In my opinion none of the rule changes are going to make wrestling more appealing to her. She will watch it if it is on TV and she will enjoy the drama of a Gold medal match no matter what the sport is and how the rules are tweaked. She is never going to understand wrestling or become a fan.

    I really don't think it mattered what country Karelin was from. He was the best in the world by far for so long, plus he had the look of a badass so it was a great story (even if it was a boring match). In 1980, during the height of the Cold War, it mattered that the team that the US hockey team beat was the USSR for political reasons, but not in 2000.

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    The fact of the matter is that wrestling is on the verge of being dropped from Olympics because advertisers are not interested in sponsoring it due to poor viewership of those with TV access to Olympics. FILA is being pressured to do something about it. It changes the rules for 2 reasons: 1) to attract more interest and 2) to let more countries win medals which would increase participation in those countries which could also attract viewers.

    The fact of the matter is Olympics is a money maker now and wrestling is not bringing in enough money. Its a capitalist way of thinking and America is a major player.

    In ancient Greece Olympics were about athletes. Today its about the fans.

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    you'd have to think the regulars on this forum know this already; there is no sense in thinking anything else. fila stinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    But if you tell your lay female friend while watching the match: "We have to wait for the ball to determine the wrestler with the favorable hold, she will possbly get excited and more into it".

    In 2000 it wasn't Soviet Union anymore but the fact of the matter is Karelin was a Soviet product and defeating him meant almost like the end of Cold war as was portrayed by the media. Do you think it would be as important if Karelin was Canadian?

    Beating Karelin was a big deal because of who he was and what his accomplishments were, not where he was from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    But if you tell your lay female friend while watching the match: "We have to wait for the ball to determine the wrestler with the favorable hold, she will possbly get excited and more into it".

    In 2000 it wasn't Soviet Union anymore but the fact of the matter is Karelin was a Soviet product and defeating him meant almost like the end of Cold war as was portrayed by the media. Do you think it would be as important if Karelin was Canadian?
    What the hell does gender have to do with it? I have plenty of male friends who are sports fan who I have to explain wrestling to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    The fact of the matter is that wrestling is on the verge of being dropped from Olympics because advertisers are not interested in sponsoring it due to poor viewership of those with TV access to Olympics. FILA is being pressured to do something about it. It changes the rules for 2 reasons: 1) to attract more interest and 2) to let more countries win medals which would increase participation in those countries which could also attract viewers.

    The fact of the matter is Olympics is a money maker now and wrestling is not bringing in enough money. Its a capitalist way of thinking and America is a major player.

    In ancient Greece Olympics were about athletes. Today its about the fans.
    Most olympic sports do not bring big TV audiences. Look at Shooting, archery, fencing, sailing, equestrian...are these sports in danger of being dropped?

    I agree that the Olympics are about money first and foremost not about sport.
    The Olympic committee gets huge fees from the TV network becasue they go to the highest bidder. In order to make a profit the network has to show the events that bring the biggest audience and having paid all that money the network has a lot of influence over when the events take place.
    The IOC should look at more than just $$$ when awarding the rights. There should also be consideration to which network will give the best coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestater View Post
    What the hell does gender have to do with it? I have plenty of male friends who are sports fan who I have to explain wrestling to.

    Bluestater,

    Because whether you like it or not there are more housewives that will spend hours watching Olympics than "househusbands" if there even is such a term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    Was an American even involved in the match?
    According to Big, we control the entire free world.

    (Im sure Bush or Cheney personally ordered it)

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