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    Default problem with officiating at european championships

    something has to be done about the starts during the greco clinch.

    can anyone explain why the ref must blow the whistle as soon as the top guy's hands touch?
    why can't the ref wait for both guys to be set and then start the match?

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    If the guy on top sets his grip tight it gives the bottom guy little chance for escape or counter.

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    yazdani,

    i have to disagree with you. it is much more difficult to lift from a dead stop. the bottom guy has a much better chance if the top guy doesn't get a "running start".

    in any case, there is too much subjectivity now. most periods are won before the whistle is blown. that is not good for the sport.

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    gutfirst, i will have to disagree with you too. i myself have much more confidence if a have my lock firm. i think this also could have to do with my wrestling style and body stature. i don't think i'm the only one. i do understand your arguement though and agree with your closing statement.

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    so, do you thing the decision to start on contact is because fila thinks that is fair to both wrestlers? i want to know what they are thinking.

    any officials out there?

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    Yes, that is what I think. Either way I feel it is stupid and taking the "wrestling" out of the match. Matches are now won and lost in the clinch.

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    I don't know guys. I've seen the whistle blown after the top wrestler already had the guy a foot in the air. One of Yerlikaya's matches from last year's Euros comes to mind, maybe the finals. The poor bastard had no chance. He was already in the air by the time the whistle had blown. It's pure crap.

    Greco sucks now anyway. It's not even wrestling. I'd like to see some stats for how many actual points were scored on the feet at this year's Euros.

    I believe this is why so many more countries are having success. It seems all you really need to do is have some good ties and keep good position for a minute. All matches are won and lost in the clinch. There's no techniques from the feet anymore. It kills the sport. It looks like no one even attempts to score from the feet anymore.

    It's not even exciting. Yeah someone gets chucked on their head but it's bullshit. It's not real. Like I've said many times, if I want to be guaranteed some throws from par terre I'll watch a highlight film.

    More and more countries will be doing better in Greco in the years to come. These new rules definitely level the playing field.

    It's the opposite of Freestyle where there is relatively no par terre.

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    Its like if they had soccer players playing for 5 minutes and then a penalty kick and do it every 5 minutes like that for the whole match. Nobody would try to score and would just wait for the penalties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quick_single View Post
    I'd like to see some stats for how many actual points were scored on the feet at this year's Euros.
    Are there any stats or analysis of any competition that was held after the introduction of the new rules in 2005? The most recent analysis I could find was from... 2002.
    http://www.iat.uni-leipzig.de/iat/fg...n/wch2002e.pdf

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