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    Yesterday, an Ukrainian newspaper published an interview with the Ukrainian greco wrestler (68-69-74 kg) Rustam Adzhi, 1995 world champ, 3rd at the 2001 worlds; now head coach of the Jr. national team.
    Worldwide there is a population of more than 20 million Gypsies, Adzhi being the only one Gypsy who ever had international success in wrestling.

    He is talking about his childhood. Born in 1973, he lived in a big family (8 children) in a Gypsy camp, in a very small ?house? (something that was said to be a house) where everybody slept on the floor. When he had to go out to piss in the night he had to jump over his sleeping patents, brothers and sisters. Everybody smoked and drank in the ?house?. Non-stop drinking parties there. When he was 14 (in 1987) he was happy to have an occasion to leave the house and his family entering a sport school and moving to the school hostel. In the following years, he felt better though he had nothing but a pair of sport shoes which he wore during many winters and many summers. Plus any sports suits which the coaches gave him as presents when he won any competition.

    He said that several other Gypsies tried wrestling but withdrew after an year or so. He sees the reason for the lack of motivation in the Gypsies' mentality and behavior which are a mentality and a behavior of nomads and travelers. The consequence: no consistency, no discipline.

    He himself learned to be disciplined and consistent because he wanted to run away from the Gypsy life that he once lived.

    The interview in Ukrainian http://www.umoloda.kiev.ua/number/1123/118/40102/

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    Gypsies are scary-looking people. When I lived in Russia they mostly lived outside of big cities in villages. I spent a few summer vacations living in those villages close to them when I was younger. They had decent houses from what I remember but they were kind of like Amish people in America but scary looking. They all had long hair, somewhat dirty clothes and they acted uncivilized, screaming and yelling all day.

    They used horses and buggies only. Overall, they were probably good people but they just looked and acted weird and nobody wanted to get close to them.
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    They are called Tsigani in Russian. I wonder why they were not invited to America. Hitler killled many of them as well.

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    There are plenty of people of gypsy descent in the United States. My Italian relatives always called gypsies "Tsigani," as well.

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    Perhaps Tsigani is an Italian word. It sounds Italian. Tsigani are of Indian descent I think though but they came to Europe and spread around.

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    The same word (with different pronunciations) is used in all languages in Eastern and Central Europe, incl. in German. It is of unknown origin; perhaps Greek.

    In the west (UK, Spain, France) but also regionally on the Balkans, words as Gypsy, Gitans or Egypti are used ? an old association of their place of origin with Egypt.

    Some pictures from Russian and East Europe:
    http://zigane.pp.ru/foto-06.htm
    http://zigane.pp.ru/foto-06a.htm
    http://zigane.pp.ru/foto-16.htm

    Pictures of houses of rich Gypsies:
    http://zigane.pp.ru/foto-04.htm
    As a rule the interior design is an eclectic combination of western styles and Indian (Bollywood) style.

    Poor and rich houses in Romania:
    http://zigane.pp.ru/foto-18.htm
    Unlike in Russia, in the Balkan countries the architecture of the rich houses (palaces) is in a special neo-gothic style inspired by the Count Dracula's popular stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I wonder why they were not invited to America.
    Look this man who invited them for a photo session at his car.

    USA, 1920s.

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    akzent,

    I didn't see any Tsigani living as poorly as some of the pictures you provided. Like I have never seen any Tsigani living in tents. The ones I remember lived in simple wooden houses. I doubt they are from Russia. Perhaps they are from Ukraine or something or maybe they were taken before 1980s.

    Actually the houses they lived in would cost $500K in the boroughs of New York City
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