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    Here we got Ben Askren, arguably the best wrestler in college last year. He is like what 23 or 24 years old now. He loses 5:0 to a 20 year old Russian. That Russian would be a freshman or sophomore in college right now. I mean, it is just hard to comprehend when you think about it.

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    My 2 cents on that is look at how young tsargush was when he started wrestling, and who was coaching him all his life, he danced through the junoir worlds without gettin a point scored on him, he got 2nd at the senior world cup as a junior (only loosing to Tigiev of UZB), id imagine his coach was prbl a multi-world champ or so, so right away he is being taught world class technique from when he was a young boy till now.

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    right away he is being taught world class technique from when he was a young boy till now.

    That's the way it should be. I think there are too many "coaches" in America that have no business coaching other than just being a warm body in the room with kids.

    In other words, what I am saying is that there are "coaches" that even when they wrestled maybe knew well 3 or 4 moves. You need a coach who, even though was good at a few moves, can show you and teach you any move that exists in wrestling. So many of these "coaches" know very few moves and can show how to do even fewer.
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    I agree, also something else that is note worthy is the mental aspect of bringing up an upcoming wrestler, a friend of mine who has gone pretty far with wrestling(placing top 8 at the worlds 03,05 at 66kg) told me that the way they do it in Rus is when they think they have a talented wrestler with potential, they will keep him shielded, by that i mean that they will never let him wrestle a match they he may loose, so a wrestler can go for 10 years an be undefeated until the coach feels they are ready to win the worlds or nats or something. Funny how that is the opposite of what goes on in Canada or USA cause it seems we throw our wrestlers in the fire an let them get better by wrestling the best all the time, but judging from how Russia produces multiple world champions every year, i have to say i think there method is better.
    What are some thoughts on this?

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    I think that has to do with the politics of Russian wrestling. When a young Russian wrestler reaches a junior level, his history of wins and losses is considered by the coaches to decide whether he has a lot of potential or not. The fewer losses he has the more chance he has to get better coaching, funding, and support.

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    But believe me a wrestler might get held back in competitions but he has sparrings with top wrestlers every week and coaches can judge his progress that way. When they see he is beating some good wrestlers consistently in sparring matches, they put him in tourneys. Their sparring matches are almost like real tourneys. They will take a day like Friday and have each wrestler wrestle 3or 4 real matches with half hour breaks in between

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    Yeah kinda like a match simulation, have a wrestler call points n stuff and make it as realistic as possible

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