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    The arguments about which countries have better political systems or cultures for wrestling falls apart when you look at similar sports.
    For instance, Judo which I am famaliar with, has to be one of the sports that is most similar to wrestling as far as technique, conditioning, and toughness.
    However, many countries that have terrible wrestling have top notch Judo - England, France & Belgium for instance.

    Boxing is also similar. Mexico & Latin America produce some of the best boxers, but no world class wrestlers.

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    I think it is cultural, in many western countries combat sports are looked down on (unless they have some spiritual crap with them) while sports like tennis are considered very high ranking and they try and prescribe it for everyone. Here they built a huge tennis complex in a shithole and no one uses it.
    Middle class liberals can be a bit crazy.



    Exactly! Wrestling creates people that are physically and mentally tough.and they are used to relatively simple life. This smacks against capitalist ideals where the masses are supposed to be relatively weak to buy medication, listen to advertisements and spend thousands of dollars on luxury goods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    The arguments about which countries have better political systems or cultures for wrestling falls apart when you look at similar sports.
    For instance, Judo which I am famaliar with, has to be one of the sports that is most similar to wrestling as far as technique, conditioning, and toughness.
    However, many countries that have terrible wrestling have top notch Judo - England, France & Belgium for instance.

    Boxing is also similar. Mexico & Latin America produce some of the best boxers, but no world class wrestlers.
    You got it all wrong buddy. The only reason England and France are good in Judo is because Judo is not that popular in Eastern Europe and elsewhere. English Judokas would get smoked if Judo were as popular in Russia as freestyle.

    The reason Mexico has good boxers is because you can make lots of money in boxing professionally. Its the same as America. America produces very good boxers.

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    Big you are an idiot, Russia is a powerhouse in Judo, but not as good as Japan.

    England is good at Judo because people here know judo, they have done judo, thee is a lot of judo schools, if you say you do judo everyone knows. If people ask me what i do training wise and i will meet them once (like at work) i will just say judo to avoid confusion. Which there is truth in because i have done judo.

    Judo is quite well respected here and many people have done it, know someone who has done it and there is judo in most towns and citys.

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    Stalin didn't care about Judo. Judo is worthless unless you are wearing a very durable suit one can grab on. Judo was never as popular in Russia as freestyle. Russia is a powerhouse without even trying hard.

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    Big you are an idiot. Judo is popular in almost every country that has a good wrestling, Cuba, Russia and Iran all top teams. The US one of the few good wrestling countries without good Judo.
    You keep trying to twist your political philosophy to justify your world view on sports.

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    Big the Russians are a powerhouse simply because they have good wrestling, the Russians almost have their own style of judo which pisses of the pure judo players.

    My judo instructor used to talk about the Russian sambo style. Sambo is like a mix of greco and judo not much freestyle though.

    I did judo a bit like russian judo, which pissed my instructor of all the time. I think you will find all strong wrestling nations have some sort of half decent judo, cuba, Iran, Russia, prob a load of eastern euo's aswell.

    As ODH said America is one of the weak judo nation with strong wrestling.

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    Judo was simply never that popular in Russia is all I am saying. As far as clubs and funding maybe 4 times less with regard to freestyle and maybe 3 times less with regard to Greco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    Judo was simply never that popular in Russia is all I am saying. As far as clubs and funding maybe 4 times less with regard to freestyle and maybe 3 times less with regard to Greco.
    Keep backpedaling. Now, when was the last time you were in Russia? And what do you have to back up these claims, or is it just more made up stuff from the mind of Big? Besides Stalin's endorsement, of course.

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