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    Thanks, Danielle -- I hadn't noticed him bumping up before. I only just started following international wrestling in the past year, so I have a lot to learn from all of you!

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    Travis Paulson and Bill Zadick did not compete.

    Themat.com has much additional information, however it also lacks information on at least one competitor, and has not as yet put placings beyond 5th, I believe. The article says additional information will follow.

    As far as I know, Jansen looked very good against Paulson, was winning; Paulson came back with a powerful bodylock to win the match. Paulson seemed to have the ability to come up with the big move or crucial score until he met the Azerbaijani (really a Russian from Dagestan I believe). The AZE wrestler was smiling or laughing everytime he went up against a USA wrestler, was lean and long and awesomely quick.

    Hvrovat was very impressive and Gallick demonstrated the ability to come from behind with the crucial move.

    Mark Rial was very impressive but could not overcome an oriental featured Russian from Siberia who was the third best in Russia according to to his teammates.

    The coaches did a good job; though I did not see the GR coache's name mentioned.

    According to inside sources, FILA took off with the results (after medals were awarded) and the French have to figure them out by hand and individual bout sheets.

    Many things could be said but those are my most lasting impressions.

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    Great information, Python -- thanks so much for the details. I had looked at Themat.com but noted that they did not seem to have complete info. Your posts here are just what I was looking for. Were you at the tournament? And can you assess the level of competition as compared to the World Championships in Baku? I know you mentioned that one of the wrestlers that Rial faced was third best in Russia, so obviously not the elite (nor were most of our wrestlers, either).

    One last question: do you know why Travis Paulson and Zadick didn't compete?

    Thanks again for all the great information.

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    TEAM SCORING
    1. Russia 78 (FS 34, LF 0, GR 44)
    2. France 75 (FS 18, LF 20, GR 37)
    3. USA 59 (FS 35, LF 0, GR 24)
    4. Azerbaijan 46 (FS 46, LF 0, GR 0)
    5. Romania (University Team) 35 (FS 0, LF 35, GR 0)
    6. Armenia 34 (FS 0, LF 0, GR 34)

    USA TEAM SCORING (only top place in each weight scores for each country):

    FREESTYLE, 35 points
    60kg Nate Gallick, 1st, 10 team points
    66kg Teyon Ware, 5th, 6 team points
    74kg Trent Paulson, 2nd, 9 team points
    84kg Andy Hrovat, 1st, 10 team points

    GRECO-ROMAN, 24 team points
    66kg Mark Rial, 2nd, 9 team points
    84kg Shaun Scott, 5th, 6 team points
    96kg R C Johnson, 2nd, 9 team points
    Last edited by ThePython; 12-09-2007 at 03:26 AM. Reason: spacing

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    The Azerbaijanis sent a freestyle team and the Armenians a Greco-Roman team. A number (if not all[?]) of the Azerbaijanis were undoubtedly originally from southern russian regions, and warmed up with their home area warm ups, with Chechnia and Dagestan on the back in English letters.

    The 74kg Azerbaijani wrestler Chamsulvaraev, 3rd in the world in 2007, had a Dagestan warmup, and looked much like world champion Sajidov of Russia who is also from Dagestan, I believe. This wrestler was a step ahead of everyone in his weight class, had slick setups that caught seasoned opponents flatfooted, and had that defensive feel where you can read an opponents offense as he begins to attempt a set up or a move.

    The 96kg GR wrestler Vassili Teploukhov, who was 3rd in the world in 2005, was just a little bit better than R C Johnson. R C hung in there, but the Russian won the key positions, including a disputed call on R C for defending by hooking/using the leg to defend a lift (ie, the benefit of the doubt always goes to the offensive wrestler, the Russian in this case).

    At the banquet that followed the next day after Deglane, the female French photographer that was documenting the tourney, the founder Mr Giaume, and Lutte Club de Nice (who runs the tourney) was all over Teploukov all night and was seen walking him to his hotel afterwards.

    Mark Rial had a semi-final match with a French wrestler ruled a loss. The USA coach protested the French wrestler had a caution which should lose him the tie breaker since all else was equal. It did no good. Then the German coach, a good guy who believes in fair play, went to the FILA representatives and explained the improper ruling, FILA reversed the referees decision, and Rial was in the final. Rial looked great with his front headlock and high reverse bodylock turns, but the Russian in the finals was just a little too much from the key positions.

    The Romanians sent a female national team and a female university team. The university team beat the national team.

    When Hrovat and Wattenberg wrestled in the semi-finals, it appeared that Wattenberg was in the same position in a key point in the match as Gatsalov was in in 2007 world final with the Iranian: an outside leg single being countered by a high reverse bodylock and stepping behing the attacking wrestlers near leg. Wattenberg gave up the position and gave Hrovat the lead and momentum. It appeared he could have inside tripped and elevated his near leg and had a great opportunity to score, as Gatsalov did in the world finals. The Russians are skillful at using a leg hook and elevate various ways when finishing off a takedown that is being countered by a reverse bodylock or crotchlift.

    College wrestling schools who had multiple alumni as 2007 Deglane tourney USA team members are Michigan (Ryan Churella, Andy Hrovat), Iowa State (Nate Gallick, Trent Paulson), and the University of Oklahoma (Teyon Ware, Shaun Scott), if I'm not mistaken.

    The Deglane banquet is up in the mountains that surround Nice, at a great restaurant (Ginguette Gaudoise) that serves a banquet family style. They make their own wine and sangria, and serve a great meal with all types of meats (prime rib/sirloin, rabbit, chicken, pork meats), the local Nicoise salad, all the fixings and a gourmet dessert. Awards, music and dancing follow. The wrestling cameradery is great. It's a not-to-be-missed affair, but often is, with wrestlers hurrying home with busy schedules.

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    Results sent by local French officials showed Damion Hahn as 7th place at 96kg freestyle. Hahn lost a tight match 0-1, 0-1 to a very powerful looking French wrestler, who looked much bigger than Hahn and had great balance. Muradov from Russia (1st 2007 Europeans) , the tounament 2nd place finisher, beat the Frenchman in the semifinals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePython View Post
    Results sent by local French officials showed Damion Hahn as 7th place at 96kg freestyle. Hahn lost a tight match 0-1, 0-1 to a very powerful looking French wrestler, who looked much bigger than Hahn and had great balance. Muradov from Russia (1st 2007 Europeans) , the tounament 2nd place finisher, beat the Frenchman in the semifinals.
    Who beat Muradov?

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    Hetag Gazumov

    Rematch of the 2007 Yarygin final, where Muradov beat Gazumov and then participated at the euros. Gazumov moved to Azerbaijan.

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    A few final comments, as I have a little free time now.

    It's all valuable experience, getting in international competition, even if results aren't what we want or wrestling fans hope for. It's a 6 hour time difference from EST, and some of the wrestlers may not have been ready for this, at least in this tournament. About the time you are supposed to wake up you feel like going to sleep. Coach warned the wrestlers about being flat and not warmed up enough, after a few early round losses.

    Hahn had a great result in Russia with gold in October, but there are no easy tournaments at this level. He drew a former wrestler from the Ivory Coast (Africa), who now wrestles for France. This Frenchman was top 10 in the world twice at 84kg, had been in 2 olympics, was much bigger than Hahn, very athletic, and was able to counter everything Hahn shot.

    Teton Ware was very athletic as usual, but better needs to understand the international rules, pairing, and philosophy.

    Hrovat was solid and consistent as usual, hard to score on, a fine effort, strategically well thought out. He did not wrestle a great top 3 level offensive wrestler in this tournament. The Russian in the finals was totally defensive, counter attacks and tricky moves (he was behind Travis Pascoe but stuck him with a body lock--circle--inside trip).

    Jansen was lightening fast, had great shots, got some good matches in at a higher weight, and almost medaled.

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