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    Quote Originally Posted by quinn14 View Post
    I think Flo is going to film these. Could someone tell me who to look for besides Kudukhov?
    Opan sat (european champ 2x, yaryguin champ), rasul murtazaliev( 2nd place at yarygin, 3rd at the nationals last year young talented wrestler, beat bunch pretty comfortably in the dual with the us), chakaev( beat the olympic silver medalist fedorshyn before, generally around the top)

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    Thanks guys! Everyone's posts will help when I'm searching for matches to watch once they're posted.

    What weights do you all think the US has the best chance of beating Russia's best?

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    I think Cael Sanderson is better than any of the Russians if he is in top shape. Varner has a shot as well, but he'll have to wrestle at his absolute best. I think all Russia's 66 kg guys are beatable, but I don't know if Teyon Ware is good enough to be the one to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    I think Cael Sanderson is better than any of the Russians if he is in top shape. Varner has a shot as well, but he'll have to wrestle at his absolute best. I think all Russia's 66 kg guys are beatable, but I don't know if Teyon Ware is good enough to be the one to do it.
    Agree. We will be lucky to keep it close at the other weights (55kg, 60kg, 74kg). Dlagnev is definitely capable of medaling but he wouldn't beat Akhmedov and definitely wouldn't beat Makhov. If he struggles with Mocco's pure physicality then Makhov gives him serious match-up problems especially since he adds better technique on top of it.

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    Yeah i agree I think cael could beat the russian 84s if hes in shape, I think varner will struggle with gatsalov and muradov, ware has a shot with the 66kg wrestlers. I'd be very suprised if an american medals at worlds this year, unless its sanderson and possibly dlagnev.

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    So Burroughs won't medal?

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    i dont think so, if tsargush goes, burroughs wont even touch his legs, or mahachs for that matter, he might beat some dent guys but i dont see him beating CUB IRI AZE BLR or UZB(assuming its tigiev)

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    The Cuban hasn't wrestled as well recently - Marable didn't even make WTT finals and he beat him at Pan Ams. Tigiev hasn't been competing for a while, I don't think you can rely on him to compete since he was last seen up at 84kg right? The Hungarian and Armenian have been competing better than Belarus recently, but I think that Burroughs could pull an upset over any of those guys. I agree that he doesn't come close to Tsargush or Iran/Aze, but I can see him sneaking a medal with a good draw - his rate of improvement at this point is off the charts.

    I really don't agree with gbdaz that it will be "very" surprising if US wins a single medal. I think they're more likely to win two or three than zero (this is a better team than last year). Assuming Sanderson sharpens up between WTT and Worlds (no reason to believe he won't) then he will be a favorite to medal at a deep weight without any perennial standouts. Dlagnev has shown he can do it before and after the top two the heavyweight class has a serious drop off, so the bronzes are up for grabs. Varner is not at the level of Muradov/Gatsalov of yesteryear but those guys haven't looked nearly as sharp recently. I'd still favor them or whoever wins Russian Nationals (unless Akhmedov or Aliev pulls the upset) and I'd favor Gazyumov - however, the other tough 96kg wrestlers aren't a level above Varner IMO, Gogshelidze is getting old, he won his world title about a decade ago. Yazdani seems very inconsistent but when hitting on all cylinders I'd favor him over Varner. Still, he's very capable of medaling depending on the draw and who is on that day. Ware, Bunch, Burroughs are unlikely to medal but people with lesser chances on paper medal all the time - all three guys have styles conducive to freestyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwh27 View Post
    The Cuban hasn't wrestled as well recently - Marable didn't even make WTT finals and he beat him at Pan Ams. Tigiev hasn't been competing for a while, I don't think you can rely on him to compete since he was last seen up at 84kg right? The Hungarian and Armenian have been competing better than Belarus recently, but I think that Burroughs could pull an upset over any of those guys. I agree that he doesn't come close to Tsargush or Iran/Aze, but I can see him sneaking a medal with a good draw - his rate of improvement at this point is off the charts.

    I really don't agree with gbdaz that it will be "very" surprising if US wins a single medal. I think they're more likely to win two or three than zero (this is a better team than last year). Assuming Sanderson sharpens up between WTT and Worlds (no reason to believe he won't) then he will be a favorite to medal at a deep weight without any perennial standouts. Dlagnev has shown he can do it before and after the top two the heavyweight class has a serious drop off, so the bronzes are up for grabs. Varner is not at the level of Muradov/Gatsalov of yesteryear but those guys haven't looked nearly as sharp recently. I'd still favor them or whoever wins Russian Nationals (unless Akhmedov or Aliev pulls the upset) and I'd favor Gazyumov - however, the other tough 96kg wrestlers aren't a level above Varner IMO, Gogshelidze is getting old, he won his world title about a decade ago. Yazdani seems very inconsistent but when hitting on all cylinders I'd favor him over Varner. Still, he's very capable of medaling depending on the draw and who is on that day. Ware, Bunch, Burroughs are unlikely to medal but people with lesser chances on paper medal all the time - all three guys have styles conducive to freestyle.
    I said its very unlikely anyone other than sanderson and dlagnev, burroughs now that i think about it has an outside shot of medalling given hatos medalled last year and burroughs is better than him, marable came second to burroughs at the nationals in 3 periods so he could have wrestled at WTT. He beat Blanco at the pan ams, they might send fundora who i'd favour over burroughs, also marable wrestles different to burroughs blanco and burroughs are interesting as blanco is very good counter wrestler, really i don't see burroughs beating iran, russia, aze or cuba at worlds and there could be plenty of sleepers from georgia, kazakh, uzbek, ukraine, turkey and bulgaria who are always a threat, not to mention burroughs is green as grass in world level freestyle competition, i'd be crazy to think it won't effect him in nerves.

    As for varner, although i am really impressed with him and rate him, I can in no way see him beating gatsalov, muradov, tigiev, gazyumov, yazdani or gogshelidze, he would be overpowered by all, like ketoev did and ebrahimi did pretty comfortably.

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