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    It is simple. You can’t expect me to cheer for the country that keeps its most dedicated wrestlers bankrupt and thinks folkstyle is the greatest thing ever invented.

    I like wrestling but with the way my body chose to grow mostly in my 20s I was not cut out to be a very competitive wrestler in my 20s. Even Russians would give up on me. Mahov won HWT title at 20 years old. When I was 20 I weighed half my weight now.

    I would cheer for USA if it had the approach to wrestling that I liked. Its nothing against the country itself. I was taught one way to live half of my life and now I am hearing all the different ideals here in America. Hence my patriotism for either country is dead and will never exist. Russian approach to wrestling is the purest form of a wrestling system I see and THAT IS WHY I cheer for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    It is simple. You can’t expect me to cheer for the country that keeps its most dedicated wrestlers bankrupt and thinks folkstyle is the greatest thing ever invented.

    I like wrestling but with the way my body chose to grow mostly in my 20s I was not cut out to be a very competitive wrestler in my 20s. Even Russians would give up on me. Mahov won HWT title at 20 years old. When I was 20 I weighed half my weight now.

    I would cheer for USA if it had the approach to wrestling that I liked. Its nothing against the country itself. I was taught one way to live half of my life and now I am hearing all the different ideals here in America. Hence my patriotism for either country is dead and will never exist. Russian approach to wrestling is the purest form of a wrestling system I see and THAT IS WHY I cheer for them.
    That doesn't answer my question. It is your business to cheer for whoever you want to - you don't have to justify it to me. However, if you want Russia to do well, why are you telling Americans how they train? Why are you so focused on telling the Americans everything that they are doing wrong, when, theoretically, that could hurt the Russians? For example, I am a Bears fan. I love the Bears. If I knew that the Bears were training in such a way that that is over and above what anyone else in the NFL was doing, there is not a chance in hell I'd tell anyone about it, because I want the Bears to win, not anyone else. So, if you don't want the US to win, why do you go on and on about what they need to do to improve?

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    i rememeber reading about the russian oil tycoon who promised to give a bunch of money to any russian wrestling olympic gold medalist in 2008, and a huuuge bonus if all weight classes won the gold.

    is that what's motivating those madmen? how were they able to get all cylinders to fire at once???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    FILA must be going nuts.
    This has to be the finest Russian performance since 1987 when they had 6 Golds, 1 silver, and 2 Bronze (52 kg 4th pl).

    Simply amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quick_single View Post
    This has to be the finest Russian performance since 1987 when they had 6 Golds, 1 silver, and 2 Bronze (52 kg 4th pl).

    Simply amazing.
    So, did they end up winning the Team portion too?


    .... just kidding....

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    So, did they end up winning the Team portion too?

    Yeah, I think they squeaked it out with those two golds today.
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    bluestater,

    I never said I don't want USA to win. I want them to win if they have the approach that I like. I want them to change so that I can confidently cheer for their success. I am sick and tired asking college kids to wrestle parterre with me at NYAC and they don't know how to do it in freestyle. I am sick and tired of kids knowing no throw moves. I am sick and tired of kids wrestling a few months a year and I am sick and tired of NYAC wrestling room not being open 7 days per week and in the mornings.

    I am sick and tired of USA wrestling not providing grown men that represent America with a favorable income.

    These conditions suck. I want them to change so that the country where I live can have a human training environment.

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    Those are all legitimate complaints and maybe the exact reason why Russians are dominating amongst other things.

    Me personally, I don't have a problem with folk, but those same folk guys should be told to be wrestling FR or GR as well. My coach did it when I was in school, but now we have a lot of armchair, lazy ass coaches that don't want to put the time in and are only comfortable with being good part of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    bluestater,

    I never said I don't want USA to win. I want them to win if they have the approach that I like. I want them to change so that I can confidently cheer for their success. I am sick and tired asking college kids to wrestle parterre with me at NYAC and they don't know how to do it in freestyle. I am sick and tired of kids knowing no throw moves. I am sick and tired of kids wrestling a few months a year and I am sick and tired of NYAC wrestling room not being open 7 days per week and in the mornings.

    I am sick and tired of USA wrestling not providing grown men that represent America with a favorable income.

    These conditions suck. I want them to change so that the country where I live can have a human training environment.
    Fair enough. I don't think our training conditions are quite inhumane, but still, there are clearly lots of things that need to be improved about the American way of wrestling.

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