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    Name training facilities besides OTC where FR/GR practices are run all year around in the morning and at night 4 to 5 days per week with a coach present to help you train and formal practices.

    We have one facility at OTC that has a good program and that is it. I bet there are dozens of such facilities in a country like Russia.

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    Who would you propose to start and fund the additional training faclities?

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    This is true. Even our best club team, Sunkist Kids, doesn't offer year round freestyle/greco training. Back in the day it was mainly working out with the ASU collegiate team as a volunteer assistant coach. The coaching was there thanks to Bobby D. Gonzo & Fletcher Carr, but clearly the collegiate team was the priority, as it should have been. Makes it tough on the freestylers though.

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    I believe amateur sports should receive funding from the government for the basic needs, like a space and equipment to train and a coach. America is supposedly the wealthiest country in the World. Surely it can do it.

    Well, not necessarily from the government but the government can lobby to get private donors that can get various incentives in return. I mean, politicians easily receive millions from donors during campaigns. Why can't the government do the same for amateur sports?

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    BIG - Let's say a member of congress (and remember the 2 wrestlers, Leach and Hastert, won't be around) is faced with funding additional Olympic wrestling training centers or repair to the hundreds of unsafe interstate highway bridges, which choice is most likely to get the money?

    The sport has to man up and take care of itself. The first requirement is better leadership. I am not a fan of USA Wrestling - sorry. They have no creativity and little initiative. Someone (including me) has to go beyond whining on the internet and take action. The recent efforts by the Oregon Wrestling Forum to help wrestling organizations nationwide are the kinds of things most of us should be doing.

    I personally know of four millionaire ex-wrestlers. There must be dozens more. Someone just needs to organize and prioritize.

    1. Get the money - you won't get it if you don't ask (this is one aspect of what I do for a living).

    2. Who gets the money? - Which is more important (a) saving college wrestling programs (b) building more freestyle/Greco training centers (c) making wrestling more available and attractive to kids?

    3. Go outside of the wrestling community and find the best professionals to market and manage the efforts.

    Watch this video http://www.flocasts.com/flowrestling...d=426&vid=4742

    That's the kind of attitude we need, not, "Please, Mr, Taxpayer, give me some money so we can beat the Russkies."

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    I never said the problem needs to be fixed. I just pointed it out. Russians consider supporting wrestling more important than fixing bridges. They feel its their National pride and joy to have outstanding wrestlers and have as many young kids to join as possible. I know Russia has less money than USA by far and yet the second richest guy in Russia who is also in the government puts all the best wrestlers on salaries and pays for training facilities and coaches all over the country.

    While every Joe shmo in America puts wrestling in the back of all the priorities the fact remains that wrestling is the oldest and greatest sport by far. Russia realizes it. Sometimes more wrestling rooms is more important than more cars or more cell phones or bigger tax cuts for the rich. Materialism isn't everything.

    For me personally a couple of wrestling practices a week is much more important than a fancy vacation. That is just me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I never said the problem needs to be fixed. I just pointed it out. Russians consider supporting wrestling more important than fixing bridges. They feel its their National pride and joy to have outstanding wrestlers and have as many young kids to join as possible. I know Russia has less money than USA by far and yet the second richest guy in Russia who is also in the government puts all the best wrestlers on salaries and pays for training facilities and coaches all over the country.

    While every Joe shmo in America puts wrestling in the back of all the priorities the fact remains that wrestling is the oldest and greatest sport by far. Russia realizes it. Sometimes more wrestling rooms is more important than more cars or more cell phones or bigger tax cuts for the rich. Materialism isn't everything.

    For me personally a couple of wrestling practices a week is much more important than a fancy vacation. That is just me though.
    Do you donate to any wrestling groups?

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    I don't know what that means bluestater. I am not a billionaire. I do pay $160 every 6 months to NYAC so that I can practice there. I also pay $70 per month to New York Sprts Club near my house so that I can workout there any time I want. That is over $1000 per year. If there were a full equipped training facility with a wrestling room near my house, I would not need a separate gym to go to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I don't know what that means bluestater. I am not a billionaire. I do pay $160 every 6 months to NYAC so that I can practice there. I also pay $70 per month to New York Sprts Club near my house so that I can workout there any time I want. That is over $1000 per year. If there were a full equipped training facility with a wrestling room near my house, I would not need a separate gym to go to.
    WTF.... my membership to NY Sports Clubs is 82 a month and starting next week, they are going to make the group of us who attend the nyac wrestling meetings pay 600 a year.... so you are actually getting a good deal!!

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