hrangelilli

On Nov. 7th(---coincides with the Soviet Revolution in 1917), and Nov. 8th,
Russia will be hosting Russia vs. the World duals(Nov. 7th) and on Nov. 8th, the 2008 CSKA Cup.

Will there be video of this event??? Which wrestlers for Russia and the other countries will be participating???

It will be in Moscow, correct??? ---If it is, then hopefully, it will be on Moscow TV.

Hopefully, Mr. Suleyman Karimov can arrange for Moscow TV to show it, and video made available. That would be great!!!!


Akzent, any word from Moscow yet???



Henry R. Angelilli

akzent

No, they both will be on Nov 7.
On Nov 8, the “absolute championship” will be held. There isn't any info in which format it will be – an open class only or (as in 2003) two weight classes (96, 120) and then a final of the 2 champions.

According to the plan of the organizers, 6 teams will participate at the CSKA Cup:
CSKA (Russia)
Ex-Soviet countries select
Europe select
Asia select
USA
Cuba
The format will be as of World Cup: 2 groups of 3 teams; then duals for the 3rd and 1st place.

A week ago the Russian federation announced the CSKA line-up
55 Jamal Otarsultanov
60 Adam Batirov
66 Zaur Botaev
74 Denis Tsargush (Murtazaliev is injured)
84 Albert Saritov (Sajidov announced his retirement few days back; also Adam Saitiev retired, though he hasn't announced this)
96 Khajimurad Gatsalov
120 Bilal Makhov
Obviously, they intentionally selected wrestlers who were 2nd or 3rd ranked in Russia before the Olympics.

Russian 2008 Olympians are not expected to participate.

The organizers have extreme problems to form the team “Europe”. It was intended to consist of Beijing medalists. But... The Georgians refused to show up in Russia (for political reasons). The Ukrainians Fedorishin and Danko will not be there (don't know why). Rumors say also Ramazan Shahin wouldn't participate. Only the 2 Bulgarians (55 Velikov and 74 Terziev) accepted. That is why the organizers are going to put in “Europe” any wrestler available, for instance Kiss of Hungary at 96 and Kara of Turkey at 120.

In Russian sources, nothing is said about the other 4 teams.

jimbo

according to iranian sources, Askari Mohammadian Club from Mazandaran will compete in CSKA Cup !

55kg; Abbas Dabbaghi
60kg: Morteza Ghorbani
66kg; Masoud Vahedi
74kg: Ali Asghar Bazri
84kg; Mehdi Hajizadeh
96kg; Jafar Shams
120kg: Hadi Pour-Alijan
Coach: Askari Mohammadian

akzent

The event started yesterday with a scandal between Fila and the Russian federation.

Fila announced the best wrestlers of 2008
FS – Vasili Fedorishin
GR – Rovshan Bairamov
FW – Stanka Zlateva
Criteria stated in:
http://wrestling.teamusa.org/news/article/7638

At the same time, the organizers in Moscow announced
FS – Buvaisar Saitiev
GR – Aslanbek Hushtov
FW – Saori Yoshida

No agreement could be reached and Fila withdrew from the event saying it should be regarded as an non-official, non-international (non-Fila) thing.

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Teams participating:
Pool A: CSKA, Asia, Iran
Pool B: Europe, Russia, CIS

Initially, only CSKA, Asia, Europe and CIS were intended to participated. Other 2 teams (USA, Cuba) the Russian federation intended to have at the CSKA Cup refused to participate and the organizers substituted them with Iran and a second Russian team.

akzent

pool A
Asia-Iran 5-2
CSKA-Iran 7-0
CSKA-Asia 5-2

CSKA team (in brackets - changes in the second dual)
55 Jamal Otarsultanov, 60 Adam Batirov, 66 Andrei Semencev (Zaur Botaev), 74 Denis Tsargush, 84 Albert Saritov, 96 Hajimurad Gatsalov, 120 Bilal Makhov (Soslan Gagloev)

pool B
CIS-Europa 5-2
Obviously, there were only 2 teams in this pool.

Final: CSKA-CIS

akzent

only CSKA club's results available:

CSKA vs. Mazandarani club (Iran) 7-0

55 Jamal Otarsultanov - Abbas Dabbaghi 2-1, 3-1
60 Adam Batirov - Morteza Ghorbani 1-0, 2-0
66 Andrei Sementsov - Masoud Vahedi - 1-0, 1-0
74 Denis Tsargush - Ali Asghar Bazri 2-0, 2-1
84 Albert Saritov - Mehdi Hajizadeh 1-0, 1-0
96 Hajimurad Gatsalov - Jafar Shamsnateri 3-0, 1-0
120 Bilal Makhov - Hadi Pour-Alijan 1-0, 3-0


CSKA - "Asia" 5:2 (There were not enough "Asians", so available Dagestanis had to fill the empty spots)

55 Jamal Otarsultanov - Kenichi Yumoto (Jpn, 3rd at 60 kg at Beijing) 1-0, 1-0
60 Adam Batirov - Noriyuki Takatsuka (Jpn) 2-0, 0-1, 6-1
66 Zaur Botaev - Takafumi Kojima (Jpn) 3-0, 1-0
74 Denis Tsargush (other sources: Magomed Zubairov) - Shamil Batirov (Rus) 1-0, 3-0
84 Albert Saritov - Gajimurad Nurmagomedov (Rus) 1-0, 1-3, 0-1
96 Hajimurad Gatsalov - Alexei Krupniakov (Kgz) 1-0, 1-0
120 Soslan Gagloev - Ali Issaev (Aze) 0-3, 1-3

Tofurky

I never heard why, but who knows why the US didn't attend this event?

akzent

I have no idea why the US did not but I think a lot of good wrestlers knew that the tourney would turn into a glorification event for the Russian federation. That must be the reason why several Olympic medalists refused to participate. Silver medalist Abdusalamov refused a day before the tourney. Taimazov is wrestling at the Soslan Andiev tourney which coincides with the CSKA cup and the “absolute” championships.

On the web pages of the tourney, there is more or less detailed information about all 4 duals of the Russian team and nothing about the other teams though the Cup has been stylized as an “intercontinental” one.

arm-spin

Fedorishin- how can a non-olympic champion be named "best wrestler"? Especially when the guy who beat him in the finals, Batriov, might be the best active wrestler on earth?

BTW my vote for last season's best wrestler would be either Muradov (96kg Russia) or Saitiev.

quick_single

And how can anyone in their right mind pick Stanka over Yoshida??? What are they on crack???