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Old 11-08-2008, 02:42 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't see any contradiction in the fact that the "best wrestlers of the year" aren't Olympic champs. The Olympic champs got their medals in Beijing and the game is over. "Olympic champ" and "best wrestler of the year (not of the day X at the Olympics)" are 2 different things. And why should a wrestler get awards for one and the same victory 2 times?

Fila doesn't pick/vote. 3 years ago Fila established particular criteria for naming the "best wrestlers of the year". Everybody knows them. If any of the future Beijing Olympic champs wanted to be named "the best", he/she should have participated at the tourney in Baku which is one of the criteria.
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:24 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Default Re: CSKA Cup/Russia vs. World duals on Nov. 7th and 8th..

In my opinion, to be the best, you should win the most important tournament of the year (the Olympics), the one everyone peaks for. BTW the guy I suggested, Muradov, won the Olympics, the Russian championship, and the Yargin I think... and he knocked of 4x champ Gatsalov twice, doesn't get much "Better". Did Muradov even lose a match?

I didn't know Fila used criteria though. I guess that works, though their winners aren't necessarily the "best" in the true sense of the word.
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:42 AM   #13 (permalink)
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only CSKA club's results available:

CSKA vs. Mazandarani club (Iran) 7-0

55 Jamal Otarsultanov - Abbas Dabbaghi 2-1, 3-1
60 Adam Batirov - Morteza Ghorbani 1-0, 2-0
66 Andrei Sementsov - Masoud Vahedi - 1-0, 1-0
74 Denis Tsargush - Ali Asghar Bazri 2-0, 2-1
84 Albert Saritov - Mehdi Hajizadeh 1-0, 1-0
96 Hajimurad Gatsalov - Jafar Shamsnateri 3-0, 1-0
120 Bilal Makhov - Hadi Pour-Alijan 1-0, 3-0
thanks akzent

what a shame ! Iranians lost every periods !

Iran's freestyle wrestling is going down and down day by day !
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:11 AM   #14 (permalink)
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They won some periods today, at the absolute championship.

In the 96-kg class, Jafar Sh. lost to Gatsalov 1:0, 0:3, 0:2.

At 120, Pouralijan beat Isaev (Aze), then he lost to Makhov 0:1, 0:2.

In the finals the 96-kg guys beat the heavyweights.
Gatsalov beat Makhov 1:0 (clinch), 1 (Makhov on double leg push out) : 1 (Gatsalov td scoring last)
For the third place, Pouralijan lost to Sheikhov (Blr) - I don't know the result. 3 periods were reported.
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:37 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Default Re: CSKA Cup/Russia vs. World duals on Nov. 7th and 8th..

Jimbo, look - in the report about the match vs. Russia, Isna posted a photo with pink flowers

http://www.isna.ir/ISNA/NewsView.aspx?ID=News-1230454
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Old 11-09-2008, 12:59 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Jimbo, look - in the report about the match vs. Russia, Isna posted a photo with pink flowers

http://www.isna.ir/ISNA/NewsView.aspx?ID=News-1230454
i was not in office and told my friend to put a photo on news. but he was not good in photo selecting.
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Old 11-09-2008, 01:01 AM   #17 (permalink)
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In my opinion, to be the best, you should win the most important tournament of the year (the Olympics), the one everyone peaks for. BTW the guy I suggested, Muradov, won the Olympics, the Russian championship, and the Yargin I think... and he knocked of 4x champ Gatsalov twice, doesn't get much "Better". Did Muradov even lose a match?

I didn't know Fila used criteria though. I guess that works, though their winners aren't necessarily the "best" in the true sense of the word.
in greco Lopez is more desereved to be wrestler of year but has no supporter.
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:11 PM   #18 (permalink)
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any video of this event yet?
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Old 11-14-2008, 06:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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No.

In the middle of this tv report, you can watch 5 seconds from the absolute final 96 vs 120 kg: Gatsalov beating Makhov

http://video.sportbox.ru/VidySporta/...ogochemp/basic
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