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    Shirvani Muradov
    I don't know much about his competitive results before 2008 but that was an amazing year. He consistently beat Gatsalov, Gazyumov and Gogshelidze (the three 96kg G's) on the way to an Olympic title at a very young age. He looked like the future of 96 kilos and I have not heard anything about him since. I assume he had injury problems this past year, is there any way that he returns for Russian Nationals? He's not even 25 years old until this summer.

    Mavlet Batirov
    Assuming he can no longer make 60kg (which is hard to believe considering his height) then he's seemingly in between weights right now. Can we expect to see him compete again? Even though he's been wrestling at a world class level since 2002, he's still relatively young (26 years old). Has he had injury problems, or just didn't want to make the 60kg cut anymore? If he could still make the weight, I would favor him over Kudukhov personally, it would be a great match.

    Ramazan Sahin
    After winning 2007 Worlds and 2008 Olympics he's kind of disappeared. Has he wrestled any competition since then? He's only 26 years old.


    I would have asked this about Murtazaliev had I not recently seen an article in which he declared his intent to compete at upcoming Russian Nationals. If Makhach is hitting on all cylinders then a match with Tsargush will be awesome.

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    i think that as per the stuff from painstakingly translated pages, Ramazan Shahin got married afer the olympics.
    after that he did not defend his title of european champion because he seems to have had a stomach problem, due to which he could hardly compete in 2009.
    it seems that in 2010, he has a problem of fluctuating weight due to which he was unable to compete in baku in april.
    i guess if he doesnt buck up, he might not qualify for the olmpics,
    thats all i know about him, the others.....i dont know.

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    yeah b.t.w he wrestled at ziolkowski 09 and lost to iranian taghvi in the finals, other than that i don't think he bothered competing at all

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    Pretty sure rumor said that Batirov was going to go up to 66 kilos after the Olympics. It is kind of surprising we haven't seen him at all since then though.

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    You'd think Shahin has the talent to just wrestle 74 kg and still do well, guess we shall see. I hope he doesn't retire.

    As to Muradov's competitive results before 2008, I know he lost a close match to Gatsalov in the Russian finals in 2007. Before that was at 84 kg but couldn't make #1 (got really screwed over in losing to Adam Saitiev at the Yargygin final). Search the "good matches" thread or youtube if you want to see these bouts (and a recent Murta/Tsargush match.)

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    we're discussing about the 66kg freestyler shahin, not the 74kg greco shahin, arm-spin.
    Any way, one more piece of info i recovered from the translated pages:
    Shahin probably does want to retire after 2012. Until then, lets see how much he wrestles...
    So far, not so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fraser.88 View Post
    we're discussing about the 66kg freestyler shahin, not the 74kg greco shahin, arm-spin.
    Any way, one more piece of info i recovered from the translated pages:
    Shahin probably does want to retire after 2012. Until then, lets see how much he wrestles...
    So far, not so good.
    I think arm-spin was talking about Ramazan, the freestyler. You mentioned that he had trouble making weight so then arm-spin suggested that he still probably has the skill to compete effectively at 74kg as well as 66kg, especially if he's gotten bigger. For example, Murtazaliev jumped weights with great results at a similar age (a little younger though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwh27 View Post
    I think arm-spin was talking about Ramazan, the freestyler. You mentioned that he had trouble making weight so then arm-spin suggested that he still probably has the skill to compete effectively at 74kg as well as 66kg, especially if he's gotten bigger. For example, Murtazaliev jumped weights with great results at a similar age (a little younger though).
    Yes. Exactly what I meant, thank you.

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    Oh okay well thanks for clearing the air.
    Yeah i agree that maybe Shahin can also wrestle 74kg as well as he wrestles 66kg.
    I'm not really an active participant in wrestling, and you could correct me if I'm wrong about the following:
    do you have to maintain, for instance, only 66kgs, or can a wrestler be excused if he's just slightly over or underweight? should it be very accurate on the scales? is there a tolerance level?
    if the answer to the last question is yes, then maybe what i was trying to say was that Shahin is not in the weight tolerance range. If there is, for instance, a tolerance of + or - 1kg, then maybe the reason for his absence is that he could be (hypothetically) 68 or 64kgs?

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