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    Akzent,

    Mussulbes indicated he will compete next week in Poland if I am not mistaken. How do you think he will do?

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    told you guys.

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    I don't know what to think because all the time after the 2004 Olympics Musulbes was inconsistent when talking. In late 2004 he said he decided to retire. Then he got employed in the national team as assistant coach for the heavyweights. But actually he didn't retire. He wrestled at some tournaments and he wrestled also in the Iranian league in the 2005/6 season. On the last day of the 2007 euros, he said he possibly would come back in 2008. Ten days later he stated more precisely he would possibly (both times he spoke in hypothetic form) make his come-back at the 2008 Yarygin (Jan-Feb 2008). Less than a month ago, he said he would wrestle at the Ziolkowski tournament (will be held weekend) in Poland. Yesterday the Russian federation mentioned some of the wrestlers who will wrestle in Poland. Musulbes' name wasn't on the list.

    That is why I thought Musulbes was talking mainly with the aim to make Kuramagomedov angry. The fact that they hate each other is well known. Almost each time when giving interviews Kuramagomedov doesn't miss the opportunity to say some words about Musulbes. Then Musulbes does the same in his next interview, then Kuramagomedov again and so on.

    Kuramagomedov is angry because Musulbes who is the assistant coach for the HWT not only doesn't help him with any advices about wrestling his main opponent Taymazov, but, on the contrary, he even helps Taymazov, not to mention, Musulbes and Taymazov train together when they are at home in Ossetia. In an interview after the 2006 worlds, Kuramagomedov suggested this was one of the causes why he (K) got beaten by Taymazov. The very day Kuramagomedov won the 2007 euros, he commented in interviews not only his success, but also Musulbes' behavior. He said that at training camps Musulbes was not only coaching, but also practicing. And he called on Musulbes to say once for all is he a wrestler or a coach.

    Musulbes' reaction came in an interview on the same day. He talked about a possible come-back in 2008. Later he specified: 2008 Yarygin. Kuramagomedov and Musulbes seem to communicate with each other only or mainly through interviews. That is way I thought Musulbes was just giving Kuramagomedov the usual provocative ?response?, and not talking about any serious plans. Moreover, Musulbes made a remark like this ?In the Russian team, nothing great has happened in MY weight division for the last two years and a half? and he added that in the past he had beaten Priadun (UKR) much more convincingly than Kuramagomedov beat him in the finals of this last euros. (I posted about this http://www.thewrestlingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=461). I interpreted all these statements of Musulbes not as plans of a come-back, but as an insult addressed to Kuramag. I thought he wanted to say to Kuramag: I am the better one; you were not successful the last 2,5 years; if I come back, I'll easily beat you.

    The possible come-back of Musulbes has been rumored much extensively since early July ? after Kuramag lost the final at the Russian nationals. In mid July, Musulbes announced his intention to wrestle at the Polish tournament in August and he confirmed (the rumors) that he received offers from Slovakia and Kazakhstan, but he stated that he would not represent any of these countries. Let's see what will happen this weekend in Poland.

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    Akzent,

    Thanks for your reply. Do yout hink the fact that anyone that wins Olympics next year for Russia will be financially set for life has much to do with B. Saitiev's and Mussulbes's decision to compete next year?

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    Musulbes doesn't wrestle in Poland today. I told you that he is inconsistent when talking.

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    http://www.denniksport.sk/clanok?id=32109&idKat=20

    The subtitle of this article (in Slovak language), published in a Slovak sport newspaper 2 days ago, puts the question: ?Will the Russian David Musulbes, Olympic champ of Sydney, represent Slovakia at the worlds??

    Obviously, there are some controversies (or conflicts?) between the head coach and the president of the Slovak federation. The Slovak head coach Radion Kertanti says that there will be 4 Slovak FS wrestlers in Baku: Stefan Fernyak, Inal Dzagurov, Peter Pecha and David Musulbes. Kertanti says also that he is trying to do his best in interaction with Slovak state institutions in order to ensure a Slovak pass for Musulbes.
    At the same time, the president of the federation seems to be not that enthusiastic. He considers Musulbes' participation for Slovakia as unrealistic and he would like to support young Slovak wrestlers (in other words: not old foreigners).
    The reporter writes that Musulbes is expected to arrive in Slovakia on Monday to arrange the bureaucratic things concerning his citizenship.


    N.B.! Head coach Kertanti is a Ossetian. He wrestled for Slovakia 1996-2004. His best success: 2nd at the 1996 euros and 4th at the 2001 worlds (got tech-falled by Williams in the 3rd place match). After he retired, he became head coach of the FS team and he began to attract Ossetian wrestlers from Russia. One of them, the mentioned above Inal Dzagurov (recently he went up to 84 kg) already has Slovak citizenship and he already represented Slovakia at tournaments and championships.

    In late May ? early June, Musulbes spent a week in Slovakia, where he discussed with Kertanti his feature as a Slovak wrestlers. In that week, several Slovak newspapers published detailed articles on this matter. There weren't any interviews, but in the articles there were quite a lot quotes from the talks of Musulbes and Kertanti with the reporters. From these quotes I could understand (it wasn't said explicitly) that the Russian federation doesn't want to have Musulbes in the world/olympic team.

    As I wrote in a previous message above, a month ago (i.e. a month and a half after his visit in Slovakia) Musulbes denied the ?rumors? that he was going to wrestle for Slovakia.


    This is one of the articles published during Musulbes' visit in May-June.
    http://www.denniksport.sk/clanok?id=27238
    Posting this link I want also to point out that the Slovaks ?steal? not only wrestlers, but also photos. It was me who made the photo published there. I don't know where from they have it but it wasn't me who gave them the photo or the right to use it. It shows Musulbes vs. Stephen Neal at the 2000 Dan Kolov tournament in Sofia.
    Last edited by akzent; 08-17-2007 at 07:38 PM.

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    Now I see he is on the Slovakian list in the prelim. entries posted by Fila
    http://www.fila-wrestling.com/images...r_def_baku.pdf

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