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    Electric!! Folkstyle v Freestyle v Greco

    If you could have it your way what style of wrestling would we do in our high school and junior high programs? Why do you feel that way?

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    I live in Canada, where we wrestle freestyle only (and a bit of Greco) and I like it. I'll leave it to Americans to decide if such an approach is a good idea for them.

    I will mention a couple of things that drive me crazy about folkstyle, which also probably hurt American freestyle preformance. One is that people can by lying on their backs and, because they are scrambing around or hanging onto something, no points are given... the 133 and 141 lb matches from this year's NCAA's come to mind. The other thing is playing the edge... in freestyle going out of bounds is a point, in folkstyle it's a common defensive strategy.

    I'd also point out that it would be possible to tweak the rules of folkstyle to make it more like freestyle (ie allow back exposure points, get rid of riding) without adopting some of FILA's sillier rules like the leg clinch.

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    Out of bounds point in folk would be amazing. I see your point about the scrambles and exposure, but I think that those scrambles are a part of why i love folkstyle.
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    out of bound points would work for me pretty good im real lanky so i usually drive them out when i shoot for a double or try to shuck them down cause they start running back so they dont fall to the mat
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    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    I live in Canada, where we wrestle freestyle only (and a bit of Greco) and I like it. I'll leave it to Americans to decide if such an approach is a good idea for them.

    I will mention a couple of things that drive me crazy about folkstyle, which also probably hurt American freestyle preformance. One is that people can by lying on their backs and, because they are scrambing around or hanging onto something, no points are given... the 133 and 141 lb matches from this year's NCAA's come to mind..
    Folkstyle is about control; freestyle is about back exposure. They are two different sports that have similarities, like baseball and softball (but unlike baseball and softball, they are equally intense).

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    The other thing is playing the edge... in freestyle going out of bounds is a point, in folkstyle it's a common defensive strategy.
    There are provisions in the folkstyle rules to prevent intentionally going out of bounds, but they aren't strictly enforced.

    Quote Originally Posted by arm-spin View Post
    I'd also point out that it would be possible to tweak the rules of folkstyle to make it more like freestyle (ie allow back exposure points, get rid of riding) without adopting some of FILA's sillier rules like the leg clinch.
    There have been changes in the folkstyle rules to make it more like freestyle: the optional start; the choice of top, bottom, neutral or defer (it wasn't always that way); changing the neutral starting position so that the wrestlers are closer to each other (they used to start standing on the ten foot circle).

    I prefer folkstyle because I was raised on it, I coach it, and I understand it better. I like that the bottom man has to work to improve his position, and not just defend from turns, and I like that the top man must control the bottom man and not just expose his back from any position or give up control without any penalty (an escape point).

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    IMO folk and freestyle is same way with one different.. freestyle is more official, folk is specific for region... freestyle and folk require from wrestler the whole preparation... strength and technics... BTW... this is only my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider View Post
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    There have been changes in the folkstyle rules to make it more like freestyle: the optional start; the choice of top, bottom, neutral or defer (it wasn't always that way); changing the neutral starting position so that the wrestlers are closer to each other (they used to start standing on the ten foot circle)...
    Those changes were made 25+ years ago when it did seem that there was going to be a slow movement to be make US wrestling more similar to Freestyle. I eould have like to see this continue, if just for the reason that I think we have some of the best wrestlers in the world and can't prove it. I hate seeing good US guys losing to wrestlers from 2nd rate countries.

    I definitely agree with arm-spin on this one... the constant going out of bounds is the worst thing about D1 folkstyle wrestling and I would prefer to see back exposure on the feet more similar to Freestyle. Rolling onto your back and hanging onto an ankle is not the style of wrestling I like to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    Those changes were made 25+ years ago.
    Seems like just yesterday . . .
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    Freestyle and Greco Roma Wrestling : high amplitude throws, i like this!

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