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    Quote Originally Posted by ODH View Post
    From 1981 until 1997 he did not lose to any Americans. He started the streak after a loss to Erland Van Lidth de Juede (former MIT heavyweight). I don't know who ended his streak in 1997 or if he just retired.
    I think that he simply retired after the Atlanta Olympics without losing again to an America. EVLdJ claim to fame was in was in a fairly good movie...."The wanderers" I think that it was called.
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    I think that he simply retired after the Atlanta Olympics without losing again to an America. EVLdJ claim to fame was in was in a fairly good movie...."The wanderers" I think that it was called.
    the leader of the baldies beat baumgartner?

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    Pretty sure it was Ron Carlisle. MoJo can confirm.

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    your right it was Carlisle.

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    I just got an e-mail from Big Rod Chamberlain and he beat Bruce in 1980 and said the LAST AMERICAN was Lou Banach-Erik VdT was Canadian . Big Rod was a bad boy and still is !!

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    Hi Russell,

    My son came upon your post about who was the last American to beat Bruce Baumgartner. I had a few good bouts with Bruce over the years. The last time I beat Bruce was in 1980, but I know Lou Banach beat him in March of 1981 at the NCAA's in Princton. Erland Van Lidth de Juede was also Canadian.
    Hope it helps.

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    This is the e-mail Rod sent me -he should be the one to know .

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    Erland was born in Holland but must have been a US citizen. He was a 1976 Olympic alternate. See the link for the SI article talking about his efforts to make the 1980 Olympic team:
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...17/1/index.htm

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    Last US wrestler to beat Bruce was Ron Carslile in about 82 or 83. This was at the AAU Nationals and Ron got behind Bruce and hit him with a beautiful suplay. All of us heavyweights "thanked" Ron for pissing Bruce off as he made us all pay for the next 12 years! No one broke the streak (although poor Tom Erickson gave it the old college try about 15 times!) Bruce retired without another US loss.

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    PS- Erland was in the film "The Wanderers" but he had his best role in the film "Stir Crazy" with Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder. He got to sing, in a beautiful voice btw a couple of country songs that made the other prisoners cry. Funny, funny film! He was also in a Arnold Schwarzeneger (sp) Stephen King adaption of "The Running Man" playing some electric bad guy whose name I forget. The King short story was much better than the movie, in spite of one of our own being in it!

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