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    Default Re: Who is the best Greco wrestler of all-time?

    <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]><object classid="clsid:38481807-CA0E-42D2-BF39-B33AF135CC4D" id=ieooui></object> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--> I wrote about what I considered the criteria was for the best Greco-Roman wrestler of all time and I?ll just repeat that, with a few comments on some of the issues mentioned.

    I believe, as others have stated, that the middle or upper-middle weights have more high level wreslers and thus the competition is tougher and a wrestler is not able to win as many titles, nor is able to go years without being defeated.

    I wrestled in many club, national, and international training sessions and practiced against the top level wrestlers in the next few weight classes up. My experience in practice and my observing others is that there are more quality middle to middle upper weight wrestlers than heavyweights. I used to train sometimes with a multiple time heavyweight national champion and to put it discreetly did very well against him.

    Of course each weight class or areas of weight classes have their own peculiarities, and I believe have to be judged separately. You might even have to say we can?t compare different eras if the rules are very different in scoring, stalling, and starting positions.

    There could be all types of criteria to the greatest of all time. If it?s the greatest one time world/Olympic level performance, there seems to me to be so many variables, including estimating the quality of opponents, that it is very problematic at best. However, there can be merit in discussing the greatest one time performances.

    To choose the greatest or best Greco wrestler I think you have to go on lifetime record, and I?ll simply repeat a post I did in the past in an abbreviated format since it will not post directly the way I wrote it (probably because of the spacings for the columns).

    GREATEST GRECO-ROMAN WRESTLERS (modern era 1948 onwards)

    Since people did not seem to offer more than a few names at a time, I thought I would offer a selection of some of the best at Greco, so here?s my take on the greatest Greco-Roman wrestlers of all time.

    My definition would have to be the most dominant wrestlers: Those winning the most gold medals in the world championships and Olympics since 1948.

    The first list is the undisputed best: Minimum 5 gold at Olympics and world championships combined with at least 1 Olympic gold. In my opinion, to be an undisputed best you would have to win an Olympic gold. Some great wrestlers never accomplished that.

    The second list are some choices for the best around this weight category if there isn?t an obvious choice with at least 5 world level golds including the Olympics, or if they should be included as an honorable mention.

    Since there have been so many weight classes I've listed several on the same line that are close to the same weight or at the same weight. However many have won titles at several weights, so it makes exact comparisons problematic.

    I?ve seen almost all these in person or film, but have included a few that seemed to fill a hole at the 74-85kg area, that dominated in their era. I did not include wrestlers before the Olympics in 1948 and before the holding of consistent world championships by FILA beginning in 1950?s, as the competition was probably somewhat thin before those times.

    I included more information on my original post but the foremat problems were too much to reproduce the original post.

    HIGHEST: 5Gold with OlympicGold @ WT
    Petar Kirov
    no one in middle weights
    Valeri Rezantsev
    Nicolai Balboshin
    Alexander Kareline, Istvan Kozma, Mijain Lopez

    2<sup>nd</sup> HI: 4-5 Gold or 2 OlympicGold+WorldGold
    Vladimir Zubkov, Kwon Ho Sim
    Jon Roenningen, Armen Nazarian
    Soyan Reihannpour
    Roman Rurua
    Imre Polyak, Sergey Martinov
    Islam Dugushiev , Fililberto Ascuy
    Viktor Igumenov, Mnazakan Iskandaryan
    Michail Mamiashvili
    Hamza Herlikaya, Anatoli Kolessov
    Giwi Kartosija
    Maik Bullmann, Georgi Kogouashvili
    Boyan Radev, Andrei Wronski
    Alexander Tomov

    Some of my favorite wrestlers are not on this list.
    Last edited by ThePython; 03-14-2011 at 04:29 PM.

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