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I demand a Apology
I want to hear Al Sharpeton apoligise for his stance in the Duke rape case, because he was wrong and he made it about race and he was wrong. But we all know he will never have to apologise for it.
I started to write a rebuttal based on the fact that even though he does overuse the race card, in this case Sharpton couldn't have known that she was dishonest about the events. Then, as I thought about it, I realized that it's wrong to just assume that the woman in a case such as this is telling the truth and the lacrosse players are not. If the case had been swept under the rug, that would be different, but you're right, Ugly, he does owe them an apology.
Originally Posted by UGLY
Then, as I thought about it, I realized that it's wrong to just assume that the woman in a case such as this is telling the truth and the lacrosse players are not.
Why? Women have long had to face the notion that they're lying whenever they cry rape.
Ugly, is Al Sharpton what's wrong with America? I think you've treed a snipe. Btw, the story is all about race, or you wouldn't be talking about it.
And will we ever know what the real truth is? DNA tests say that these guys did not leave any genetic material behind. That's it. Maybe there was a rape and the wrong guys were identified. Maybe the women lied. Maybe the tests were bungled or tampered with. Alcohol was involved, so is anyone's version of the events to be trusted? Will we ever know the 100% truth? Probably not. Move on.
"All my life I have tried to pluck a thistle and plant a flower wherever the flower would grow in thought and mind." -- Abraham Lincoln
THe point is that Imus looses his job most likely for being offensive. When the good reverend assumes the guilt of the Duke Lacrosse players and makes it a race issue and stands behind a supposed victim even in the face of evidence to the contrary, we all look the other way. But call someone a nappy headed hoe and get canned because of the public outrage. Just pointing out a simlple double standard. THese kids are going to be marked for the rest of their lives because of this incident and if it had not been for Sharpeton and Jesse Jackson inflaming the issue they may have recieved a little more inocent until proven guilty instead of the other wat around.
I am all for womens right and I think that they should be taken at their word when they say they were raped. But when mounds of evidence comes out that disprove her claim the case should not proceed.
No, what I'm saying is that it's wrong to make any assumptions about who is telling the truth and who isn't. The stereoptype would be a bunch of privileged college boys getting drunk and taking advantage of a poor stripper, and that's what Sharpton played on. Not that I know much about rape cases (thankfully), but you can't prejudge any case until all the facts are in.
Originally Posted by matclone
No, what I'm saying is that it's wrong to make any assumptions about who is telling the truth and who isn't.
Yes, but you have to start somewhere. You're a doctor. A hypochondriac comes to your office and proclaims she is hurting all over. Right away, you will lend her the presumption of truth and the resources of your medical team until an examination or other evidence reveals that there's probably no basis for her claim.
That's the position Al Sharpton was in, as a black leader, for the reason you've stated:
"The stereoptype would be a bunch of privileged college boys getting drunk and taking advantage of a poor stripper, and that's what Sharpton played on."
Except I would say there's some historical basis for the scenario, and not just a stereotype based on fancy.
Now, if it turns out her allegations were false, does he owe an apology to the boys? Depends on what he said and did. If he merely offered the girl support of her claim, I'd say no. If he on the other hand, proclaimed the boys as rapists (acting as judge and jury as so many have with this case) then perhaps he does.
As I said above, if the case had been swept under the rug or the woman's claim had not been taken seriously by the authorities, his intervention would not have been inappropriate. What he did, from my perspective, was create a media event so that thanks only to his involvement, a poor, black woman would not once again be victimized by the biased system.
Agree completely. Sharpton's made his reputation by always taking the side of his own race. He doesn't care about evidence, only about the accusation. First Tawana Brawley, now the Duke guys. He never apologized for the Brawley incident, and he won't for the Duke case. Sharpton has no credibility with me.
Originally Posted by UGLY
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