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    Israeli, UK media report increased planning for confrontation with Iran



    By Laura Rozen | The Envoy ? 39 mins ago







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    Just as the United States is preparing to unwind itself from its involvement in the Middle East--departing Iraq and transferring lead security responsibilities in Afghanistan to Afghans by 2014--a new round of tension appears to be surfacing between Iran and Israel. Reports in the Israeli press indicate that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak are working to convince other members of Netanyahu's cabinet and Israeli security chiefs that Israel needs to launch a pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuclear program.
    Netanyahu and Barak "are trying to muster a majority in the cabinet in favor of military action against Iran, a senior Israeli official has said," Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported Wednesday in a piece co-bylined by four reporters. The two officials "recently persuaded Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, who previously objected to attacking Iran, to support such a move," according to the Ha'aretz acount, which has garnered an unusual degree of attention from western policymakers.
    The Ha'aretz report followed a piece late last week by Israel's leading columnist, Nahum Barnea, on the front page of Israel's largest circulation daily Yediot Ahronoth, titled "Atomic Pressure." It begins: "Have the prime minister and defense minister settled on a decision, just between the two of them, to launch a military attack on the nuclear facilities in Iran?" The piece then continues:
    This question preoccupies many people in the defense establishment and high circles of government. It distresses foreign governments, which find it difficult to understand what is happening here: One the one hand, there are mounting rumors of an Israeli move that will change the face of the Middle East and possibly seal Israel's fate for generations to come; on the other hand, there is a total absence of any public debate. The issue of whether to attack Iran is at the bottom of the Israeli discourse.
    In the bigger picture, such developments aren't earthshaking. Israel has long harbored serious concerns about Iran's developing nuclear capacity--and Netanyahu has sought to rally global opinion behind efforts to stem Iran's nuclear ambitions. What's striking, however, is that American diplomacy hands are paying exceptionally close attention to these latest reports.
    Washington Middle East analysts note, among other things, that the timing of the reports is significant: Israel has lately found itself isolated in regional diplomatic debates in the wake of the so-called Arab Spring uprisings. What's more, these U.S. experts say, anxiety over Iran's nuclear ambitions has spread well beyond Israel proper, to rival Arab states such as Saudi Arabia. And diplomacy watchers in the States also note that the Israeli media reports appear to be sourced to those members of the Israeli security establishment who have traditionally opposed a unilateral strike against Iran--largely on the grounds that such an action would blindside Washington.
    From Israel's perspective, it may feel "it has little to lose" from carrying out strikes on Iran, in terms of its regional standing, Marc Lynch, a Middle East expert at George Washington University, told Yahoo News Wednesday. "It sees its strategic position [amid the Arab awakening] as deteriorating. There is no peace process."
    But Lynch also noted the sense within the Israel press that "Israel might do it" may have another purpose: to push U.S. President Barack Obama to implement tougher sanctions and pressure on Iran--or else.
    "I still don't see [an Israeli attack on Iran] as a high probability," Lynch said. "My sense of this is [Israeli leaders may] see this as an opportunity to once again ramp up pressure and containment and sanctions on Iran. I have no sense the United States is ramping up for war. But communications between the U.S. and Israel is not all that it could be. How much of this is gamesmanship to force the U.S. to do tougher sanctions, [and how much of this is] there's a window of opportunity to have a serious discussion they might take a shot."
    The media reports also come as the UN atomic watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), is due to issue a report on Iran's nuclear program Nov. 8.
    "The [IAEA] report will almost certainly raise tensions in a region made volatile by this year's Arab revolutions and the turmoil in Syria," the Guardian's diplomatic editor Julian Borger wrote Wednesday. "In the absence of a tough new UN security council resolution, the US will face the dilemma of acting militarily without an international mandate, or risk missing Iran's window of vulnerability to attack."
    "Britain's armed forces are stepping up their contingency planning for potential military action against Iran amid mounting concern about Tehran's nuclear enrichment programme, the Guardian has learned," a separate Guardian report Wednesday said. The UK Defense Ministry "believes the US may decide to fast-forward plans for targeted missile strikes at some key Iranian facilities. British officials say that if Washington presses ahead it will seek, and receive, UK military help for any mission, despite some deep reservations within the coalition government."
    All of these trends are sobering, given an increasingly war-weary climate of opinion in the United States. American citizens have lately been looking for the enormous commitment of resources that the United States has undertaken in the past decade of warmaking in the Middle East to be channeled into domestic improvements to the stalled-out U.S. economy--nation-building at home, as Obama recently put it.
    Meanwhile, it's not as though relations between the United States and Iran are exactly placid at the moment. The State Department said it had received a seven-page "rant" of a letter from Iranian authorities this week rejecting recent American allegations that members of Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards Corps-Qods Force had conspired in an assassination plot against the Saudi envoy to Washington.
    10 to 1 Obama bends over and somehow foots the bill for this or commits troops or SOME dam thing. BEBE owns him.
    You know, I think I would rather be a man than a god . We don't need anyone to believe in us. We just keep going anyhow. It's what we do.

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    Iran better hope that Israel does not attack. They do not need our help to level Iran, it would not even be a fight. My Father-in -law is friends with one of the members of Israel's Knesset which is their parliament and he says that they view all actions by Iran as a threat to the very existence of Isreal and they will do what needs to be done to ensure their survival.

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    Anyone notice all of the Jew hatred not only from Iran but also from OWS? People better be careful when messing with Isreal, they do not play.

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    I heard a saying in New York once -''Israel does not believe in an eye for an eye , rather 2 eyes for one ''

    I also understand how Palestine ( as well as several other nations)-one day they are living on their land and the next the land is named Israel .Then after promising eternal peace 20 years later the 6 day war ensues .Now that Israel is a Nuclear power no one is safe.
    You know, I think I would rather be a man than a god . We don't need anyone to believe in us. We just keep going anyhow. It's what we do.

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    i just read where both Russia and China have stated ''there will be serious repercussions'' if Iran is attacked . Iran is the leading oil producer for China and Russia has been an ally for some time .Several sites are mentioning WWIII is approaching quickly .
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    Well, if WWIII is coming, I'd rather be on Isreal's side. But with our current administration, I doubt we will be.

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    Einstein was quoted as saying the next war after WWIII would be fought with sticks and stones. Meaning all technology would be destroyed .
    You know, I think I would rather be a man than a god . We don't need anyone to believe in us. We just keep going anyhow. It's what we do.

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    Remember that there has never been a Palestine until recently the Israelites have always inhabited that land and people have been trying to eliminate them since the beginning of humanity it seems.

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    The Israelis justification for retaking their ''homeland'' is GOD told them to ? they quote the Bible as their legal right to the land .Yet the Bible also speaks of Armageddon within 2 generations of their return to their homeland . Since 2 generations have lapsed and no GOG/MAGOG showdown doesn't that seem to disprove the Biblical accuracy ?
    Also , several friends of mine in college (Jewish) used to come to blows over whether the Jews had the right to return as they were supposed to return at god's will and time.
    now the 3 major religions in the world have their holiest sites with in yards of one another . Not a best case scenario.
    You know, I think I would rather be a man than a god . We don't need anyone to believe in us. We just keep going anyhow. It's what we do.

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