As for value-based talk show politics , I wil submit to you that the majority of political talk show viewship today is based on value. I don't think that anyone is tuning in with the mindset that he wants to waste his time instead of making it count for something. Successful viewers know that their decisions MUST be grounded in good political principles. Those who don't follow those principles will waste their time. The loss of that time will drive them away from these shows or drive them to follow the proper principles, which will eliminate the problem. The Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld fiasco was a case of people not following sound political principles. Particular consequences ensued and those people are a bit more aware of their actions with respect to listening to and believing that nonsense.