KR: What is the diff between getting a vit c drip and just taking a bunch of vit c supplements?
KR: What is the diff between getting a vit c drip and just taking a bunch of vit c supplements?
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Absorption & utilization.
Most supplements are synthetic & the body doesn't utilize them sufficiently as they are lacking everything that they would normally have in nature. In that way the body doesn't fully recognize them as a food & that's why so much of the synthetics are pissed out of the body.
Finding a supplement made from a whole food source generally means that the body will absorb them better.
Getting an IV drip with liquid Vitamin C means that it is in your blood stream & the body can't help but utilize it it all. Vitamin C is a powerful anti-oxidant, probably the most powerful one the body doesn't make, (that being Glutathione). Getting in liquid form in high doses has help me offset almost all of the side effects that would normally ravage someone who gets radiation as a treatment.
Also I am taking 75 grams every other day. Most people's stomach wouldn't be able to deal with 150 grams of ascorbic acid in a 72 hour period. I can tell you it burns my veins enough that you would have to eat somuch more then 75 grams in order to absorb 75 grams & your digestive sys would a tad bit acidic.
If you have watched the video of Dr Samir Chachoua this will make a lot more sense to you.
It was thought that Inositol was a B vitamin but now it has been reclassified as a glyco-nutrient. Glycos help the anti-bodies & cancer cells communicate. When this communication drops out, cancer cells grow. Revitalize it & cancer can be stopped & perhaps even eliminated.
Cancer Inhibition by Inositol Hexaphosphate (IP6) and Inositol: From Laboratory to Clinic — J. Nutr.
Inositol, found naturally in high-fiber foods and nutritional supplements, blocks a major cancer pathway - University of Colorado Hospital (Dec 2009)Uncontrolled proliferation is a hallmark of malignant cells, and IP6 can reduce the cell proliferation rate of many different cell lines of different lineage and of both human and rodent origin
Center News - University of Colorado HospitalWhy do people who eat high-fiber diets typically have lower incidence of certain cancers? Researchers at the University of Colorado Cancer Center may have an explanation after discovering that a nutrient called inositol hexaphosphate (IP-6) blocks a pathway some cancer cells use to multiply, recruit blood vessels and keep from dying.
IP-6, also commonly known as phytic acid, is found in high concentrations in whole grains and legumes. It’s also a currently available nutritional supplement.
Dr. Mallikarjuna Gu, a research associate of Pharmaceutical Sciences Department at the University of Colorado School of Pharmacy, discovered that treating prostate cancer cells in a Petri dish and those transplanted into mice with IP-6 stopped the cancer from growing.
Upon further investigation, he discovered that IP-6 disrupts theP13K-Akt pathway, which is shown to play a major role in the development and progression of prostate cancer, breast cancer and colorectal cancer.
“P13K-Akt is a master regulator of carcinogenesis,” Gu says. “It’s a cascade pathway, so if we can block its action, we stop many processes from starting. We showed that IP-6 inhibits the pathway not only in cells, but also in mice transplanted with human prostate cancer cells. That’s very exciting news, because in cancer we are looking for targets. We found a major target.”
Chemopreventive Efficacy of Inositol Hexaphosphate against Prostate Tumor Growth and Progression in TRAMP Mice — Clinical Cancer Research (March 2008)Natural substance may shrink prostate tumors (Aug 2008)
Drs. Raj Agarwal, Chapla Agarwal, Bob Sclafani and members of Raj Agarwal’s lab have a new publication in the February 2009 issue of Cancer Research (link to research) that explains the mechanism of the chemopreventive substance, Inositol Hexaphosphate (IP6), in prostate cancer.
IP6 is a substance naturally found in whole grains and high fiber foods such as beans and brown rice. It is nontoxic. Studies have correlated lower incidences of breast, colon and prostate cancer with eating lots of foods that contain IP-6. But until now, no one understood how the mechanism worked.
Previously, Agarwal’s lab showed that IP6 induces cell growth inhibition and apoptosis in advanced prostate cancer cells both in vitro and in vivo during G1 of the cell cycle. In the experiments behind this paper, they worked to figure out how IP6 works as a chemopreventive agent. They showed that IP6 targets the p21 and p27 proteins, which are known to be inhibitors of cell division. They also showed that when p21 and p27 are both knocked out, cancer cells become resistant to IP6.
“IP6 has to be working through that mechanism,” Sclafani said. “The bottom line is IP6 is effecting the normal cell regulatory system.”
The next step for the group is designing a clinical trial using IP6 for treatment of prostate cancer. Sclafani said they hope to show that the substance can be used to shrink prostate tumors
IP6 inhibited prostate cancer progression at prostatic intraepithelial neoplasia stage, (this means the stage where an abnormal yet non-cancerous growth of cells has formed within the layer of cells that forms the surface or lining of the prostate) and strongly reduced the incidence of adenocarcinoma, (A cancer that develops in the lining or inner surface of an organ).
I am reposting this from another board...FYI:
Originally posted by royboy:
How is your health as the new year starts?
Thanks for asking guys & for the acknowledgment as well! I hope you can make it each & every BLOG even if you are at the dual, (if you have a cell phone with web browsing you can! or a laptop with wireless connection.)
My main tumor is shrunk probably by about 90%. I still have a body problem, (I dont actually like to use the C word ) but I have 8 more bouts of RAD & I have been doing 75 grams of Vit C in an IV every other day to get rid of the RAD side effects. My MD is wondering what I am doing as I have gained weight, have all my hair & I am not tired.
I tell him that I USED TO BE A WRESTLER...( maybe I still am!)
And actually that sort of non-stop NO quit competition has been important in my viewpoint that I am going to survive. I have too much to do. My best friend's gf died of breast cancer 2 weeks ago. She was fighting it for 3 years. Me just one. (Jill Clayburgh died after 17 years of fighting so you never know). But my friend's gfs ATTITUDE was something I noticed. She was angry. She felt cheated @ times. The pain wanted to make her give up. I KNEW that the pain I had experienced as a wrestler prepared me for the pain I have been through. I was NEVER gonna quit.
I don't mean to hijack my own thread or go off but I hope what I say helps someone.
I have other things to help me as well, including supplementation, spiritual & emotional therapy & a thirst for knowledge on the subject. But the kernel of my strength & hope was really what I learned from wrestling NOT QUITTING. One more lap. One more drill. One more rope climb. One more sprint. One more @$$ kicking from the state champ on out team. You get the picture. That was the genesis of why I am still here. I kid u not.
Don't take what I say for granted. It isn't a feel good story of which I write just the simple truth. My original MD told me I had 6-12 months to live. Next Saturday it will be ONE year since he told me that. 3 months my tumor was the size of a baseball on my neck. It hurt. Worse then hours of "6 inches" or stair steps wearing vinyl in the sauna. Believe me, that pain wants you to quit. And I realized that most people die because they just want the pain to stop. The pain now is less. I haven't finished beating this yet but I am close.
And thanks for my drive & thirst for knowledge I have found a MD in MEX who has a vaccine that handles this problem. If it works I am going to help him bring it to the world.
In the mean time I feel as if in my free time I want to give back to the sport that helped me in ways I couldnt imagine when I was 15. And give back to the community where I was raised. Who knows how long I will have this opportunity but I again appreciate the acknowledgments 4 what I love to do on the boards & for the sport & I truly appreciate the support & good wishes I have received from anyone on the Nittany Lion wrestling boards.
And one last thing...another thing wrestling started to help me was overcoming FEAR. Fear as Frank Hebert said in DUNE "is the MIND KILLER." People don't know how important it is when fighting this "disease." It feeds off of FEAR & worry & stress, (as well as SUGAR!)
I have been on my own spiritual quest for over 30 years. And one fear I have overcome is the fear of dying. I know that I am not just a body. I am not here to preach BUT wrestling made me look @ my fears & afterward I continued to grow because I would always look @ what made me weak & then go after that relentlessly until I overcame it. If you are afraid of death this disease will eat your lunch. Like Cael on an ankle pick, cancer fueled by fear will take a person down. I have watched & I have seen who is making & who isn't. AND I want people to know that.
Sorry for being long winded...hope this helps someone out there. If it does then ALL OF THIS was worth it, because I helped someone else.
Saturday January 15th, 2011 marked the one year anniversary of my 1st MD telling me I had 6-12 months to live. I am still here.
Later this week i will be posting info about all the supplements that I have been taking to help me fight this.
Sorry I have not posted the data on supplements as I have been very busy the past 3 weeks.
I have an appointment with the radiation oncologist Feb 22nd. Probably will do another PET CAT Scan. Doing some blood work today. Trying to set up getting the vaccine from the Australian MD, (who is in Mexico,) out in Los Angeles.
The scab on the tumor is about gone. I will post a picture later today.
Just Diagnosed with Cancer? Tell the World! | With You in the Fight
If you review my thread you see a number of posts talking about certain "supplements" that fight cancer. You also see 2 videos about Australian MD Dr Samir Chachoua & his vaccines that have been tested @ Cedars Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles, CA, USA.
I could not afford the "natural methods" a few MDs I have gone to because they don't take insurance or insurance doesn't cover it. If I had a little bit more money I could have afforded the $100 to $200 per day treatments. As it ended up, one MD abandoned me b/c I could not do enough of his treatments & he was afraid of me dropping dead on his watch.
I have done 33 rounds of radiation. The tumor has shrunk but I still have a tumor. I have also done 75 grams of Vitamin C 2xs per week while getting radiation. This has definitely reduced the radiation side effects. I am not holding out to get the vaccines as I truly believe after all the research I have done that they hold the key.
I have also increased my intake of IP6. If you look @ my thread I also have listed several tests done by large universities about the effectiveness of IP6 on tumors.
I am also doing things to increase my thyroid activity & testosterone levels to strengthen my immune system.
Anyone who wants to communicate with me can do so via that thread or twitter (KR1963) or facebook (KX Russell).
I realized that when I found out that I had cancer on January 15th, 2010 that I had it for a reason & that I was going to learn something from this & teach people how to defeat this body problem.
I have also had over 300 hours of counseling to address the mental & emotional reasons why I have this problem & why I am creating it for myself. If you cannot confront that & you play the victim then this problem will surely have you physically licked. Don't do it.
Realize that you can take responsibility for this problem & you are on your way to overcoming it.
kr, I would just like to say that your postings have been a real inspiration for me. Keep fighting the fight. It makes a difference in more than just your own life. Thank you.
R.I.P. Cyrano and Roxanne.