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    Default Fastest Falls (and other pinning particulars)

    Fall. Stick. Pin. All describe the same thing in amateur wrestling: The way to instantly end a match is to put both shoulders of your opponent to the mat for one full second.

    There's a fascination with falls that goes beyond the college wrestling community. It's like the knockout in boxing; a win by pin takes on added significance beyond a regular decision. (In fact, in terms of team points, a fall equals six points, while a decision by 8 points or less is worth three.)

    Here are some fun facts about pins...

    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-7...ng-particulars

    Mark

    PS I've attached pics of two prodigious pinners: 1920s Oklahoma State heavyweight Earl McCready (portrait)... and Dan Hodge of Oklahoma (white trunks), about to turn and pin Iowa's Gary Kurdelmeier
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    Default Re: Fastest Falls (and other pinning particulars)

    Good stuff Mark.
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    Default Re: Fastest Falls (and other pinning particulars)

    2 questions?

    Where does pinfall fit into the terminology?

    What about Bruce Kinseth? In 1979 he pinned his way through Big Tens AND NCAAs.
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    Default Re: Fastest Falls (and other pinning particulars)

    Quote Originally Posted by gg121and2 View Post
    2 questions?

    Where does pinfall fit into the terminology?

    What about Bruce Kinseth? In 1979 he pinned his way through Big Tens AND NCAAs.
    Hi Jim,

    First, sorry that I missed Bruce Kinseth. I had seen a list of names of those who had pinned their way through the NCAAs, and worked from that. Some names were wrong (the guy hadn't accomplished that feat), and a couple were missing... including Kinseth. I will add him to my list. I guess this means I won't be able to count on that free night in one of his hotels. ;-)

    (Seriously, thank you for bringing his accomplishment to my attention)

    As for pinfall... it's a word I've seen in non-wrestling media, and in older student newspapers and college yearbooks. It does seem redundant, so I try not to use it, unless I'm quoting someone or an older publication.

    Mark

    PS Sorry I was so slow to answer -- is there a way to be notified when new posts are added to a thread I started?
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    Default Re: Fastest Falls (and other pinning particulars)

    Quote Originally Posted by ideamark View Post
    Hi Jim,

    First, sorry that I missed Bruce Kinseth. I had seen a list of names of those who had pinned their way through the NCAAs, and worked from that. Some names were wrong (the guy hadn't accomplished that feat), and a couple were missing... including Kinseth. I will add him to my list. I guess this means I won't be able to count on that free night in one of his hotels. ;-)

    (Seriously, thank you for bringing his accomplishment to my attention)

    As for pinfall... it's a word I've seen in non-wrestling media, and in older student newspapers and college yearbooks. It does seem redundant, so I try not to use it, unless I'm quoting someone or an older publication.

    Mark

    PS Sorry I was so slow to answer -- is there a way to be notified when new posts are added to a thread I started?
    Mark,

    No problem on the Kinseth thing. That's just something that most Hawkeye fans love to cite.

    As for the "pinfall" question - that was meant to bait Dart Shark into a response. He HATES it when someone uses that term.

    Jim
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