I'll take Howe over either of them. I've seen Howe wrestle 6-7 times and he doesn't look like he's breakind a sweat and he beat a Ben Davis kid -Cahmelan Porter like he was a 2 year old and Porter is the strongest 152 lber I have ever wrestled . He won the Football players weight lifting contest 2 years in a row -benching in the 375 -390 range .
When I graduated from Ben Davis in 1976 I was one of the first people in the 200 lb club -meaning benching 200 10x''s now they have a 300 and a 400 lb club -
I couldn't play sports today -I don't drink or smoke nor do I do illicit drugs -I just would refuse to take a urinalysis test on principle.