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    Most top Russian wrestlers are no stronger in the weight room than your average high school football player of the same size. However, they can do like 70 dips and 100 push ups.

    Its amazing to see them struggle with 175 on the bench press yet do 50-70 dips.

    When you have the real wrestling system with a coach, a wrestling room and training partners around year around, pure weight lifting becomes irrelevant. Its when you don't have all these things is when you do weight lifting to make up for the lack of wrestling tools.

    Wrestling in the morning is very important. You come at 7am and drill for 30-40 minutes, then wrestle live in the afternoon. Not just one week at camps but at least two days during the week for most of the year. Other days you either wrestle once per day and/or play games like soccer or basketball and do some conditioning. 1-2 days off every week. Lots of rest is needed so working too much will not be good for your wrestling success. You will get hurt or burnt out.

    Young wrestlers should have 2 workouts per day at least 4 days of the week. Morning and afternoon. Morning workouts should be 30-45 minutes

    Drilling in the morning is very, very important. Why? Because you need to get your nervous system trained in wrestling as soon as you wake up and no other stimuli is present. Also, its very good for weight loss to have a drill and/or a short run in the morning.

    Unless these things are done religiously, you will almost never get very good.

    Let me also just say all these things are not possible in America. You got few clubs that are often far away from where kids live and costly. School wrestling is only a few months per year. Morning workouts to drill are not possible (Because school rules for example don't allow wrestlers in the wrestling room in the morning or the coach is not avaliable or there is no wrestling room even)

    There is no structure or comraderie of a club environment for the most part. People play other sports, and do other things in general.

    In college the monotony of everyday grueling workouts and constant competition and weight cutting wear wrestlers out or they get hurt.

    After college the pressure to make money and make a living is also very difficult.

    Don't even get me started that when most coaches are even present, they either don't know what to teach or teach the wrong thing. Very few true "wrestling philosophers" so to speak in American wrestling.

    One last thing. Drilling in wrestling should always be done to find an easier way to do a move. You will hear Russian coaches say many times to do it this way BECAUSE IT IS EASIER.
    Last edited by Schlottke; 05-21-2008 at 06:46 PM.

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    Well done Big, I enjoyed reading that. I try to follow what you have said because looking at what you have said it is true, you do not see very many wrestlers that are very muscular. A friend of mine who is from iran and was one of the top ranked at his time told me that the iranian team does not focus so much on weights but core workouts and wrestling drills, and it makes sense. I often over look the importance of drills, unfortunately for me once I am in the room I just want to go go go, when perhaps I should slow things down and perfect my technique instead of making practice a cardio excericse.

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    What you should do in that case is run for 20 minutes before wrestling. This will slow you down.

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    So what are some of the main condionting exercises you should do in practice instead of lifting weights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grecowrestler13 View Post
    So what are some of the main condionting exercises you should do in practice instead of lifting weights?
    First you can drill intensely. Try to get up quick and do a move. 3 you 3 your partner back and forth.

    If you can lift your partner with ease you are strong enough.

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    Could you do bodyweight exercises after or before drilling, or at all during practice to help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grecowrestler13 View Post
    Could you do bodyweight exercises after or before drilling, or at all during practice to help?

    Yes, before and after you can do piggy backs carries, carry your opponent in your arms, reverse lifts, squats with your opponent on your shoulders and so on.

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    But lifting weights(might I add doing it properly) definitely doesn't hurt. No, I'm not talking about bench or curls but core lifts like squat, deadlift, push-press etc. Endurance is good but yo need explosive strength to move the guy around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dangun View Post
    But lifting weights(might I add doing it properly) definitely doesn't hurt. No, I'm not talking about bench or curls but core lifts like squat, deadlift, push-press etc. Endurance is good but yo need explosive strength to move the guy around.
    Sure, but its not as important as some other factors I mentioned in my 1st post if you want to be the best.

    I believe the best American wrestler, John Smith, did not lift weights that much, or at least he didn't look like he did.

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