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    Default 2013-2014 Rules

    League Structure
    A)
    Thou Shalt Not Change the Rules Mid-season.

    B) Each team will have 16 wrestlers. Each week, you may start 11 wrestlers: one at each weight class and one "flex" wrestler of your choice who will receive points regardless of which weight he wrestles.



    Competition/How to Win

    Competition is not head-to-head. Instead, every week, your team's points (see "Scoring" below for details) will be added to your cumulative total. Cumulative scoring ends after conference championship week. At this point, the top teams make it to "the playoffs," which is really just the NCAA Tournament. For the playoffs, the cumulative scores are disregarded, and whichever player accrues the most points during the NCAA Tournament wins the league.


    A)
    Posting Your Lineup. Weeks will begin on Friday and end on Thursday. Every week, the commissioner will open a thread wherein all lineups must be posted by midnight (Pacific Time) Thursday night. If your lineup is not posted by this deadline, your lineup from the previous week will be used. No exceptions.

    B)
    Making the Playoffs. The top 5 cumulative scorers from the Regular Season will qualify for theChampionship Bracket. In addition, the player who scores the most points in conference week who would not otherwise have qualified will be awarded a playoff spot. All players that do not qualify for the playoffs can still post their lineups for entrance in "The Loser's Bracket."

    C) Prizes
    i) Championship Bracket. The winner of the Championship bracket receives eternal glory as the league's champion. His name shall be posted for eternity in the Hall of Glory below.
    ii) Loser's Bracket. The winner of the Loser's Bracket wins the right to assign a signature to the last place finisher from the Championship Bracket.

    D) Non-Participation. Any owner who does not post his lineup on time 4 times throughout the season may be stripped of his team at the discretion of the commissioner. The commissioner may choose to give control of that team to someone else.

    Scoring

    A)
    Regular Season Scoring
    i) Points will be awarded as follows: Pin - 6; Tech - 5; Major - 4; Decision - 3; Forfeit - 3; Medical Default - 3; Injury Default - 6.
    ii) Points will only be awarded at the weight class listed for the wrestler when you posted your lineup.
    For example, if you listed your wrestler at 133 but he bumps up to wrestle 141, you won't get any points. The "flex" wrestler is the exception to this rule and will be awarded points no matter what weight class he wrestles.
    iii) Dual Meets. All dual matches will be scored.
    iv) Tournaments.
    All Tournaments will be scored.
    v) Bonus Tournaments. *Champions of Midlands, CKI, and the Southern Scuffle will receive 10 bonus points. Runners up at these tournaments will receive 5 bonus points, and third place finishers will receive 3 bonus points.
    vii) The NWCA All-Star Classic will be scored. Both the "Main Event" and the "Side Card" qualify.
    Five (5) points will be awarded for participating in the event.
    viii) Conference Tournaments count as part of the regular season. However, wrestlers who win the Big 10 tournament will get 15 bonus points added to their scores, those finishing second will get 10 bonus points
    , and those finishing in third place will receive 5 bonus points. The guys who win OW at the Big Ten tournament will also get 5 bonus points. All other conferences will have bonuses of 10 points for a championship, 5 points for a second, and 3 points for third.

    B)
    Playoff Scoring
    i) The playoffs are really a one-event deal, with that event being the NCAA Championships. Teams making the playoffs will have their scores reset, and the whoever generates the most points at NCAAs wins. "Tournament scoring" will be used for the playoffs. I'm not exactly sure of all the details of tournament scoring, but you can probably find it in the NCAA rules online somewhere. I will post it when I get to it.
    ii) Bonuses will be awarded as follows: OW - 3; Gorrarian - 2.


    Wrestler Acquisition

    Wrestlers may be acquired in 3 different ways: The draft, free agency, and trading.


    A)
    The Draft
    i) Draft Order. The draft will be performed in a random order that will be announced before the draft.
    ii) Draft Execution. Because this league is carried out over a message board, the draft is kind of tricky. We will have the draft in October, and it will probably take a week or so. Basically, when it's your turn, someone will text/call you to let you know. At that point you will have a time window to make your pick by posting it on here or by phone/text/etc. This way, if you are at work/school, you will have time to make your pick.

    B)
    Keeping A Wrestler.
    As a reward for good drafting, GM's may elect to retain one wrestler from one year to the next, provided that the wrestler is eligible.
    i) Eligibility. To keep a wrestler, you must have drafted him (and not traded for him or picked him up out of free agency) the previous year, kept him on your roster the entire season, and he must have competed for his school in the starting lineup. Wrestlers drafted in the first or second rounds are not eligible to be retained.
    ii) Cost of Keeping a Wrestler. The retained wrestler will cost a draft pick, the round of which will be two rounds higher than the wrestler was drafted the previous year. For example, if someone were to draft Joe Schmoe in the 7th round this year, they would be able to keep him in lieu of their 5th round pick the following year, and the 3rd round after that, and the 1st round after that. This is why wrestlers originally drafted in the first or second rounds are not eligible to be retained.

    C)
    Free Agency/Waiver
    Each owner can claim up to 10 wrestlers from free agency/waivers throughout the season (known as the free agent quota). In order to do so, the owner must drop another wrestler from his roster. Claims are placed by posting in the "Free Agency/Waivers" thread.
    i) Free Agency. Any wrestler not on a roster or waivers (see below) is a free agent. A free agent may be claimed at any time on a first-come, first-serve basis.
    ii) Waivers. Whenever an owner drops a wrestler from his roster, that wrestler will be placed on waivers for 3 days. At the end of this period, whichever owner who wants the wrestler and has the highest waiver priority will "win" the wrestler. This owner will then move to the bottom of the waiver priority list. Initially, the waiver priority order will be the reverse of the draft order (aka reverse alphabetical order). If no one claims the wrestler in the waiver period, the wrestler will fall into the free agency pool.

    D)
    Trading
    i) Getting a trade approved. After you negotiate a trade, post it for approval. For the most part, trading is allowed freely. However, any trade deemed detrimental to the spirit of competition will be rejected. The commissioner reserves the right to reject any and all trades.
    ii) Overturning commissioner trades. Trades involving the commissioner may be overturned by rejecting votes from 4 league members who believe the trade is detrimental to the spirit of competition.
    iii) Deadline. No trades will be allowed after
    February 14, 2012, at midnight Pacific Time.
    iv) Multi-wrestler trades. If you trade and that leaves you with only 14 wrestlers, adding another wrestler from the free agent pool will count against your free agent quota. If a trade leaves you with 16 wrestlers, you must drop a wrestler, but this transaction will not affect your quota.
    v) Add/Drops. Free agent add/drops may be traded as reasonable consideration.



    HALL OF GLORY:
    Past League Champions
    2008-09: Gold
    2009-10: Herkey#1
    2010-11: Gold
    2011-12:
    GoBigRed
    2012-13: Vaisforlovers

    Last edited by thaxton; 10-14-2013 at 09:35 PM.

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    The only thing really subject to change are the eligible tournaments. Do we want to have eligible tournaments and the 20 ranked wrestler rule, or just the ranked wrestler rule?

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    i was looking over the tournaments and was wondering if we should/could readdress them? i noticed that psu open is there and there is no tournament this year and others maybe like the cowboy open might be worthy etc. anyway here is a list of tournaments and who will be attending. also, at times other teams show up who aren't listed. this might be addressed by the 20 ranked wrestler rule but i was wondering if it is the top 10 ranked or 20 or 25? also, who do we consider the official rankings? not trying to be a pain because i like it as simple as possible and would like it be if a guy wrestles he gets points period. i got burned in my first year because i really didn't know the rules or pay attention to them anyway. here is the tournament list

    Division 1 College Rankings, Lineu ps, Schedules, Recruiting, and Results
    2013-14 NCAA DI Master Schedule


    November 2nd-Cowboy Open (Air Force, Utah Valley, Wyoming) @ Laramie, Wyoming

    November 2nd-Eastern Michigan Open (Eastern Michigan, Indiana) @ Ypsilanti, Michigan

    November 2nd-The Citadel Open (Duke, The Citadel) @ Charleston, South Carolina

    November 3rd-Clarion Knight Point Open (Clarion, Lock Haven, Ohio State, VMI) @ Clarion, Pennsylvania

    November 3rd-Warren Williamson/Daktronics Open (Nebraska, South Dakota State) @ Brookings, South Dakota

    November 9th-Brockport/Oklahoma Gold Classic (American, Buffalo, Oklahoma) @ Brockport, New York

    November 9th-Fall Brawl (Franklin & Marshall) @ Collegeville, Pennsylvania

    November 9th-Michigan State Open (Columbia, Eastern Michigan, Edinboro, Indiana, Michigan State, Navy, Ohio State) @ East Lansing, Michigan

    November 9th-Northwest Open (Wyoming) @ Powell, Wyoming

    November 9th-Colorado Mesa Open (Utah Valley) @ Grand Junction, Colorado

    November 10th-Binghamton Open (Binghamton, Lock Haven, Penn State, Rutgers) @ Binghamton, New York

    November 17th-East Stroudsburg Open (Franklin & Marshall, Penn) @ East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania

    November 17th-NC State Open (NC State, Old Dominion) @ Raleigh, North Carolina

    November 17th-Roadrunner Open (Appalachian State, CSU-Bakersfield, Maryland, Navy) @ Bakersfield, California

    November 23rd-Navy Classic (Bucknell, Chattanooga, Franklin & Marshall, George Mason, Navy, Wisconsin) @ Annapolis, Maryland

    November 23rd-New York State Collegiate Championships (Columbia) @ Ithaca, New York

    November 23rd-UNK Holiday Inn Open (Air Force) @ Kearney, Nebraska

    November 24th-Keystone Classic (American, Appalachian State, Bloomsburg, Indiana, Northwestern, Penn) @ Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

    November 24th-King College Open (VMI) @ Bristol, Tennessee

    November 30th-Mat Town Open (Franklin & Marshall, Lock Haven, Rutgers) @ Lock Haven, Pennsylvania

    December 6-7th-Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invitational (Air Force, American, Michigan, Navy, Nebraska, Northern Iowa, Ohio State, Rutgers, Utah Valley, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wyoming) @ Las Vegas, Nevada

    December 7th-PSAC Championships (Bloomsburg, Edinboro, Lock Haven) @ Erie, Pennsylvania

    December 14th-Northern Iowa Open (Michigan State, Northern Iowa) @ Cedar Falls, Iowa

    December 22nd-Reno Tournament of Champions (Chattanooga, Nebraska, Utah Valley, Wyoming) @ Reno, Nevada

    December 29th-Brute Invitational (Bloomsburg, Buffalo, Franklin & Marshall, Lock Haven, Michigan State) @ Lock Haven, Pennsylvania

    December 29-30th-Midlands Championships (Columbia, Eastern Michigan, Edinboro, Franklin & Marshall, George Mason, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Northern Iowa, Northwestern, Utah Valley, Virginia Tech, Wisconsin) @ Evanston, Illinois

    January 1-2nd-Southern Scuffle (Air Force, American, Appalachian State, Bucknell, Chattanooga, Drexel, Duke, Navy, Northern Colorado, Old Dominion, Penn, Penn State, Virginia) @ Chattanooga, Tennessee

    January 4th-F & M Open (Franklin & Marshall, Navy) @ Lancaster, Pennsylvania

    February 1st-All-Academy Championships (Air Force, Army, Navy) @ New London, Connecticut


    also, if we end up voting or anything here is a list of the tournaments i would like to see included.

    Cowboy Open
    Clarion Knight Point Open
    Brockport/Oklahoma Gold Classic
    Michigan State Open
    Binghamton Open
    Roadrunner Open
    Navy Classic
    New York State Collegiate Championships
    Keystone Classic
    Mat Town Open
    Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invitational
    PSAC Championships
    Reno Tournament of Champions
    Brute Invitational
    Midlands Championships
    Southern Scuffle
    All-Academy Championships





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    I think it should be 15 ranked wrestlers. That means it has to be two very good teams....or 3/4 teams with a few ranked wrestlers. And as far as ranking go, I don't want us to pick one ranking agency. Let's allow anyone that is ranked by the major rank-ers to be counted.

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    It is fairly easy to pick out the tournaments in this list that are made for D1 and ones where D1 teams are just there for practice, confidence, or proximity.
    if we go with the list i like the ones yak picked out, didn't notice any more that should be added

    As far as "ranked wrestlers": last year it was any rankings even to top 25, I'm good with the same this year, so we'll keep it the same

    I don't like 15 ranked wrestlers, I think 20 is better because it hints there is at least 2 per weight, which we know is not always the case, but it sets a good precedent.

    The tournaments listed in the rules are still from last year, but will be adjusted once we figure it out.

    we will probably go with the 20 ranked wrestler rule and the "tournament list"


    We'll give it a couple days for which tournaments to inlcude/eclude arguments. so let me know what you think

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    There arent many tournaments besides the "big ones" where there will be 20 or even 15 ranked wrestlers. Many tournaments list good teams but do not send their starters. We addressed this in my league this year and are counting all matches wrestled.
    THE MOST POWERFUL WEAPON ON EARTH IS THE HUMAN SOUL ON FIRE

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    Taking a quick look at the new D1 rankings NCAA Rankings - D1 College Wrestling the only tourneys that have 20 or more ranked wrestlers according to the teams listed are these:

    Michigan State Open
    Navy Classic
    Keystone Classic
    Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invitational
    Reno Tournament of Champions
    Midlands Championships
    Southern Scuffle

    Not a very long list.

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    I would bet that of those on your list, only CKLV, RTOC, Midlands and Southern Scuffle are the only tournaments that actually have twenty ranked wrestlers. If we are going to set a threshold number for ranked wrestlers, it should probably be at ten. Otherwise there won't be many tournaments to score.
    THE MOST POWERFUL WEAPON ON EARTH IS THE HUMAN SOUL ON FIRE

    "I like to relax with a chainsaw." Tom Brands 12/4/09

  9. #9

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    how bout if a guy wrestles he gets points. i know there are a few times teams have easy match ups but they occur even in duals when teams are way mismatched?

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